What to do? Can't afford to eat.

GlasweJen

perhaps but the DWP are more likely to conclude that the OP never really split from her partner and it twisting her circumstances in order to claim benefit which is fraud it would hinge on how serious the OP and her BF are in the first place. Have they been going out for a couple weeks/months/years, are the engaged/planning to be etc.

Firey668

GlasweJen wrote: »

perhaps but the DWP are more likely to conclude that the OP never really split from her partner and it twisting her circumstances in order to claim benefit which is fraud it would hinge on how serious the OP and her BF are in the first place. Have they been going out for a couple weeks/months/years, are the engaged/planning to be etc.

Well thankfully what the dwp may ''think'' about a totally unquantifable and unproveable thing counts for absolutely nothing. :T:o

As if the OP says to the dwp that she and her bf have now decided to stop being together as gf and bf,
and so shes going to move into her own flat and start doing just-sex and casual fun from now on with many guys (can include that current bf),
but not going to actually become girlfriend and boyfriend with any of them,
then the benefits department will just be forced to accept that regardless of whatever they may think.



As they have no way of ever proving who the OP is in a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship with,
or if they are even in a gf/bf relationship at all with anyone.

And so they can't base their benefits claim rejection on something that they could never ever ever prove.

Soubrette

Firey668 wrote: »

Well thankfully what the dwp may ''think'' about a totally unquantifable and unproveable thing counts for absolutely nothing. :T:o

As if the OP says to the dwp that she and her bf have now decided to stop being together as gf and bf,
and so shes going to move into her own flat and start doing just-sex and casual fun from now on with many guys (can include that current bf),
but not going to actually become girlfriend and boyfriend with any of them,
then the benefits department will just be forced to accept that regardless of whatever they may think.



As they have no way of ever proving who the OP is in a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship with,
or if they are even in a gf/bf relationship at all with anyone.

And so they can't base their benefits claim rejection on something that they could never ever ever prove.

If the OP never act like g/f and b/f then fair enough - she can claim.

If they are ever investigated and they spend the majority of their time together, buy each other food/bills etc, have any kind of shared accounts or leave clothes around each others places for convenience, then they'll have a hard job trying to explain that they are not actually a couple (I'm sure I saw a documentary on this once).

However, if they keep separate houses, separate bills, separate accounts etc then life is going to be a lot more expensive for each of them individually as well (imo) as not very satisfying from a relationship pov.

Sou

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Firey668

Soubrette wrote: »

If the OP never act like g/f and b/f then fair enough - she can claim.

If they are ever investigated and they spend the majority of their time together, buy each other food/bills etc, have any kind of shared accounts or leave clothes around each others places for convenience, then they'll have a hard job trying to explain that they are not actually a couple (I'm sure I saw a documentary on this once).

However, if they keep separate houses, separate bills, separate accounts etc then life is going to be a lot more expensive for each of them individually as well (imo) as not very satisfying from a relationship pov.

Sou

How they ''act'' is totally irrelevant to whether or not she can legally claim.

If i want to i can ''act'' like ive got a wife and 5kids, or can ''act'' like ive got a fulltime job where i earn lots of money,
yet i legally am still entitled to claim benefits as in reality im single and independent, and i dont work.

But theres no law prevent me from ''acting'' however i want to.


How someone may 'act' is just not relevant in any way to them claiming benefits,
and so you seriously shouldn't join the people who post untrue scare-mongering theories on here which put people of claiming what they are legally entitled to.



If what you said was true then virtually every benefit claimant out there would be under investigation!

As i spend lots of time with my best mate (male), we buy eachother food and drinks sometimes when out clubbing, i leave some of my clothes at his house when i sleepover there,
so i should be ''being investigated and having a hard time explaining'' how me and him aren't a gay couple!! :rotfl::cool:


If you do share bank accounts with the person then that would class you as a couple,
however its very rare for even married couples to share bank accounts now,
so for 2 people who are just dating and don't share money that wouldn't be an issue.

PaisleyPPL

Hi ,

I was reading ur post an felt so bad for you, i know what your going thro. I am a fulltime student, and my partner is currently oout of work due to having surgery, we are entitled to any benefits either (he gets £270 ssp a month to live off of- including all bills and food)as u can imagine that doesnt go far.......anyway sorry to babbly on but ive had to take on 2 part time jobs to get us by.

The thought of u not having any food makes me so upset, if u PM i would be happy to send u a food parcel (got lots of beans, tuna ,and pasta -this is wot weve been living off of for the last 6 weeks lol)- i know this doesnt help much but the thought of u having nothing to eat.

Also - i dnt know if this applies in your area but a friend from uni once got a job through a day labour place were we live -u get paid cash for working the day and the usually can give u work as long as u are there by 8am -as i say dnt know if there is anything like that in your area, might be worth a shot, i didnt know about it till my friend told me.

GlasweJen

When I helped at CAS I actually helped a couple in the same situation as above in my capacity as a benefits advisor. The couple had met in halls of residence at a local university and had then moved out with 2 other students into their own flat (3 bedroom). The male had then dropped out of uni and, when he couldn't claim any benefits as a couple, got himself a flat and claimed housing benefit (which was the norm at the time).

He kept seeing his other half and they were saving together so that they could eventually get a house together when she had graduated and got money (in a joint account). She spent a lot of time at his flat claiming that it was easier to study there and had a few items of clothing and some toiletries there.

He was subsequently investigated for benefit fraud (they allege that they were shopped by one of the gfs flatmates but who knows?). Interviewed under caution he admitted that she spent a lot of time at the flat, that she often brought food in with her and that they ate together, he also explained about the joint account. He got done for benefit fraud, was made to repay quite a sum of it though not the full amount and got given 60 hours of community service. His entitlement to housing benefit, council tax benefit and job seekers allowance stopped immediately but he was still left with 4 or 5 months left on his 1 year tenancy.

Princess_Coupon

Could you not get a job that doesn't require experience for the 18 months? like bar/shop work

clb776

situations like this are incredibly unfair. if your boyfriend is doing a full time course in your eyes then appeal the decision and send in details of his course...at least then you can be happy that they know what kind of course he is doing.

There are jobs out there that require no experience....mcdonalds etc....just keep looking, it'll happen soon

Amistoso_2

Sorry OP but if your starving hugry and can't afford to feed yourself then take any job available until something more suited to your qualifications comes up.
If your boyfriend gets a grant/bursery while studying then he isn't entitled to claim benefits as well. If you'r living together and he is studying then I don't see why you can't clam JSA as a couple, all it would mean is that they take his circumstances into acount but would only give money for you as you are the only one with entitlement