He took voluntary redundancy

DigForVictory

My husband took voluntary redundancy & wants to spend more time with our kids, so wants to work part time term time. He's said so to HMRC & it appears he won't get Income Support or Job Seekers Allowance as he is not looking for work nights, weekends, or all day every day. (I work full time.)
Has he denied all our entitlements with this honesty?
I'm trying to stay positive that this is a temporary thing, but we went to the dentist this morning...

merlin68

If your working full time he wouldn't get income support anyway.

emsywoo123

DigForVictory wrote: »

My husband took voluntary redundancy & wants to spend more time with our kids, so wants to work part time term time. He's said so to HMRC & it appears he won't get Income Support or Job Seekers Allowance as he is not looking for work nights, weekends, or all day every day. (I work full time.)
Has he denied all our entitlements with this honesty?
I'm trying to stay positive that this is a temporary thing, but we went to the dentist this morning...

How old are the children?
and am I not keeping up, what's the dentist comment?

karenx

Income support is for single parents and sick/disabled.
JSA is for people activly looking for full time employment.

He really should of just kept with his job while looking for another one, would of been better off.

Also, do you claim the childcare element of tax credits just now? If you do this will stop while your partner is out of work

fluffymovie

Might not be a popular view but here goes!

Your husband took redundancy so I assume that he was given a payout to help with this?

My very personal view is that I haven't had children yet as I can't afford them. I have made a choice and live by that. I would not seek advice from the state in the form of JSA or IS if I was making a choice to remove myself from the job market to spend time with children. Why should tax payers support me when I have decided not to work but am capable of doing so?

I don't believe that JSA force people to say they would work nights or all days every day. However, in return for money from the tax payer, your husband has to make efforts to look for work.

amersall

fluffymovie wrote: »

Might not be a popular view but here goes!

Your husband took redundancy so I assume that he was given a payout to help with this?

My very personal view is that I haven't had children yet as I can't afford them. I have made a choice and live by that. I would not seek advice from the state in the form of JSA or IS if I was making a choice to remove myself from the job market to spend time with children. Why should tax payers support me when I have decided not to work but am capable of doing so?

I don't believe that JSA force people to say they would work nights or all days every day. However, in return for money from the tax payer, your husband has to make efforts to look for work.

i agree, taking voluntary redundancy means you have put yourself out of work. and i wouldnt have thought you would be entitled to claim any benefits, maybe that is why he cannot get jsa

alwaysonthego_2

I am sure that you can claim JSA even if an individual took voluntary redundancy as they would not be classed as leaving their job and should not be sanctioned. He may not get CBJSA if he has not paid enough NICs or IBJSA due to his wife'a income/savings.

dookar

alwaysonthego wrote: »

I am sure that you can claim JSA even if an individual took voluntary redundancy as they would not be classed as leaving their job and should not be sanctioned.

It is very possible to receive a sanction for taking voluntary redundancy

alwaysonthego_2

Voluntary Redundancy



71.—(1) A claimant is to be treated as not having left his employment voluntarily-

• (a) where he has been dismissed by his employer by reason of redundancy after volunteering or agreeing to be so dismissed, or

• (b) where he has left his employment on a date agreed with his employer without being dismissed, in pursuance of an agreement relating to voluntary redundancy.

http://195.99.1.70/si/si1996/Uksi_19960207_en_6.htm#mdiv71

This is what the JSA regs say so if you fit in with this criteria then you should not get sanctioned?

dookar

alwaysonthego wrote: »

Voluntary Redundancy



71.—(1) A claimant is to be treated as not having left his employment voluntarily-

• (a) where he has been dismissed by his employer by reason of redundancy after volunteering or agreeing to be so dismissed, or

• (b) where he has left his employment on a date agreed with his employer without being dismissed, in pursuance of an agreement relating to voluntary redundancy.

http://195.99.1.70/si/si1996/Uksi_19960207_en_6.htm#mdiv71

This is what the JSA regs say so if you fit in with this criteria then you should not get sanctioned?

absolutely. But it must be a 'genuine' redundancy situation, often people are voluntarily redundant without it being so. This is why *all* voluntary redundancy cases will go to a DM.

DigForVictory

Thank you for all your help!
The redundancy is one agreed with the JobCentre as HMRC are shedding staff so he hasn't quite put himself out of work - it's a 71 (1) b situation. (sorry, if replying from having read all the posts.)

I confess I'd thought he might be entitled to JSA & thus we could get help with dentists & opticians fees, & maybe council tax. He's certainly worked & paid NI before this so I had vaguely hoped...

He's signed some document saying flatly he won't do nights or weekends & opines that that will shut off all possible benefits (entitlements isn't an idea he's yet embraced.) And if you don't get one, it is harder to try to get some of the others.

So I'm trying to find out what may or may not be reasonable. Not least since his eyesight's dreadful so the glasses he needs will probably not be cheap. (I'm not convinced the internet sites go as far as his prescription.)

Sorry emsywoo123, we had a dentists trip & ended up with an over £60 bill which if he were entitled to anything could be refunded. The kids are all in primary school.

fluffymovie, I agree - if he's just sitting at home minding the kids then I'm not completely sold on his entitlements. However he's telling me that unless he's seen to be applying for a fulltime job, he's not entitled to anything & I am not sure he's got that right.

Bless you alwaysonthego! May depend on our savings (nil other than his payout) or my income for IBJSA? Still some hope then, for which thanks.