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3-month used car warranty almost up, potential big problem with the car!

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  • Sealed hydraulic pump - if it was sealed, it can be unsealed. Someone built that pump, it didn't just magic into existence.
  • somech
    somech Posts: 624 Forumite
    who is the warranty company as most of them dont cover smg boxes
  • YME_2
    YME_2 Posts: 9 Forumite
    Good guess Matty, it’s the E46 M3, which is apparently much more reliable than the E36 version, but obviously not 100%...

    Pew Pew: one or two specialists now offer reconned units on an exchange basis, but none say they can just change the sensor in my unit. I’ve never even seen the unit so don’t know how ‘serviceable’ it is or isn’t.

    Somech, I’m aware Warranty Direct and others will cover the SMG system if you have waranty with them, but my ‘warranty’ is just the legal standard that you get from every car trader when you buya a used car from them.

    Still awaiting my latest report, but in an ideal world the trader gets BMW to replace the unit on a ‘goodwill’ basis as the car isn’t exactly old and has impeccable fBMWsh.
  • stugib
    stugib Posts: 2,602 Forumite
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    YME wrote: »
    [FONT=Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial]I’m aware that legally there is a three-month warranty on any car bought from a trader, [/FONT]
    YME wrote: »
    my ‘warranty’ is just the legal standard that you get from every car trader when you buya a used car from them.

    First I've heard of it - where did you get this info from?
  • somech
    somech Posts: 624 Forumite
    i fear you may get no where with this
    first of all although there may be a potential fault soon the gearbox still works so technically its not broken.
    3 month warranty as legal standard never heard that before
    the car when sold had to be fit for purpose and as it still works its still fit at the mo.
    best of luck though
  • YME_2
    YME_2 Posts: 9 Forumite
    I knew this in advance, have known it for ages, and I have some car-dealer friends who have also mentioned this to me. My receipt also states 'three months warranty' but all car purchases from traders have this as standard. The trader may well offer you '12 months' warranty at £XXX, and if you decline the offer you may be under the impression you have no warranty, but we all have three months warranty as standard from every car trader we buy from, regardless of purchase price.

    I did some research online on trading standards over the w/e and what I found backs this up, in fact if you buy from a trader and the car is 'sold as seen' and that is stated on the receipt it means nothing: you still as much 'come back' as you would with a regular purchase from a trader...

    I called and spoke with consumerdirect yesterday and they too confirmed the three-month warranty period that all used cars have when bought from traders, in fact it's more than three months according to them.

    Would be interested if you know different to that stugib, but previous knowledge, information from car dealers and my recent research points to this being the case.
  • YME_2
    YME_2 Posts: 9 Forumite
    somech wrote: »
    i fear you may get no where with this

    You're not alone, that's my fear too! :(
    somech wrote: »
    although there may be a potential fault soon the gearbox still works so technically its not broken.

    The fault is present in both reports, and will come up on any diagnostic examination, so it's not 'potential' but genuinely there.
    somech wrote: »
    the gearbox still works so technically its not broken.

    The fault light has come on again and have now experienced gear problems :( It's intermittent, but I think it's now properly starting to go wrong...
    somech wrote: »
    3 month warranty as legal standard never heard that before

    I thought everyone knew this, so either I'm massively wrong or it's not common knowledge. Either way my receipt states '3 months warranty' so I'm covered there. :)
    somech wrote: »
    best of luck though

    Cheers buddy, I may need it!
  • YME_2
    YME_2 Posts: 9 Forumite
    This might be of interest, from Citizen's Advice Bereau Advice Guide:

    "If the dealer won't agree to put the problem right, you can take legal action up to six years from the date you bought the vehicle (five years in Scotland).

    However, it is probably unrealistic to take legal action for a fault in a secondhand vehicle, especially an older vehicle, once you have been using it for a reasonable length of time.

    If you take the vehicle back within six months of buying it, the dealer should accept that there was a problem when the vehicle was sold and offer to repair or replace it. If the dealer doesn't accept that there was a problem when the vehicle was sold, they will have to prove this.

    After six months, it will be up to you to prove that there was a major problem with the vehicle when it was sold. You will have to provide evidence of this so it may help to get an independent report which could establish the condition of the vehicle when it was sold.

    If the dealer agrees to repair the vehicle, the repairs have to be carried out within a reasonable time and without significant inconvenience to you. The dealer must pay the costs of the repairs. If the repair has taken a long time, you may be able to use a service loan car or claim compensation, for example, for the cost of hiring a vehicle. If the dealer refuses to repair the vehicle, you are entitled to get it repaired elsewhere and claim back the cost from the dealer. If the vehicle can't be repaired or replaced or this is considered too expensive, taking into account the type of fault, you may have the right to get some or all of your money back. You will have to negotiate with the dealer to decide on what would be a reasonable amount. In deciding what is reasonable, you will need to take into account how much use you have had out of the vehicle.
    For more information about your rights when you buy goods, including secondhand goods, see Buying goods - your rights."
  • stugib
    stugib Posts: 2,602 Forumite
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    YME wrote: »
    "If the dealer won't agree to put the problem right, you can take legal action up to six years from the date you bought the vehicle (five years in Scotland).

    However, it is probably unrealistic to take legal action for a fault in a secondhand vehicle, especially an older vehicle, once you have been using it for a reasonable length of time.

    If you take the vehicle back within six months of buying it, the dealer should accept that there was a problem when the vehicle was sold and offer to repair or replace it. If the dealer doesn't accept that there was a problem when the vehicle was sold, they will have to prove this.

    After six months, it will be up to you to prove that there was a major problem with the vehicle when it was sold. You will have to provide evidence of this so it may help to get an independent report which could establish the condition of the vehicle when it was sold.

    If the dealer agrees to repair the vehicle, the repairs have to be carried out within a reasonable time and without significant inconvenience to you. The dealer must pay the costs of the repairs. If the repair has taken a long time, you may be able to use a service loan car or claim compensation, for example, for the cost of hiring a vehicle. If the dealer refuses to repair the vehicle, you are entitled to get it repaired elsewhere and claim back the cost from the dealer. If the vehicle can't be repaired or replaced or this is considered too expensive, taking into account the type of fault, you may have the right to get some or all of your money back. You will have to negotiate with the dealer to decide on what would be a reasonable amount. In deciding what is reasonable, you will need to take into account how much use you have had out of the vehicle.
    For more information about your rights when you buy goods, including secondhand goods, see Buying goods - your rights."
    That's all standard Sale of Goods Act stuff, not a 3 month warranty.
  • YME_2
    YME_2 Posts: 9 Forumite
    stugib wrote: »
    That's all standard Sale of Goods Act stuff, not a 3 month warranty.

    OK, so that can apply to anything bought then I guess. Is there much difference between this and a warranty? In practice it allows the buyer of a car some 'comeback' if things go wrong in the first 6 months.
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