Wheelie Bin fine

Enslaver

I find this theory interesting..........

The rules state that I need to leave my bin at the end of my garden/drive and not on the pavement in front of the property by 7am for collection.

After collection the bin is left on the pavement and not put back on my property so basically it is the council who left it there and not me!!

and.......

Councils state that wheelie bins are the property of the council. So does this mean that I could be fined for the council leaving their own property on their own pavement??

moonrakerz

You think YOU'VE got problems ?????

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268377/Families-forced-follow-green-zealots-new-recycling-diktats.html

spike7451

I live in a appartment block in a court area,the's no vehicle access so the bins have to be wheeled about 25 yeards from my home to the nearest kerbside.
I have a nice dent in my car door where a bin,flung by the binmen who cannot be bothered to site the bins back onto the pavement, crashed into my car.
Most bin days on arrival home involves now moving the bins off the road & onto the footpath before I can park my car..

david39

If the OP is not having a laugh at everyone, I would suggest that he looks closely at who is imposing the "fine" and who is asking for the money.

Make sure that it is your local authority and not a scammer.

It sound suspiciously to me like an extension of the Car Park Penalty Ticket Scam.

spike7451

You soon wont be able to f art in a public,open air space without getting a fine!

mttylad

AFAIK the council are liable for your bins for 24 hours before & after it has been emptied.
Part of the public liability insurance they have.

Ben84

moonrakerz wrote: »

You think YOU'VE got problems ?????

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268377/Families-forced-follow-green-zealots-new-recycling-diktats.html

That recycling system sounds awful. Thankfully our local one involves two bins (alternate weeks, recycle and landfill) and a box for glass that goes out same day as recycle bin, simply because it makes a dangerous mess of broken bits if collected with the other recyclables. It really does work well and is minimal effort, so I wish newspapers would be more objective about the new recycling systems and show the other side, that it can and does work well in some areas.

C_Mababejive

paulbrannan wrote: »

Hi,

just opened my post this morning to see a nice £75 fine for leaving my wheelie bin out by one whole extra day!
Apparently I have contravened Section 46(6) of the Environmental Protection Act 1990, but after reading the Act, it's suitably vague.

My question is if there's a way of challenging the fine - do they not have to give a warning to repeat offenders etc? Also, it's on a private road, would that have any bearing?

Any advice would be appreciated as I think this is a grossly disproportionate fine.

Thanks

Write back and tell them it isnt your wheelie bin. Tell them it belongs to the local authority and you simply store in on their behalf. It does have their name on it doesnt it?

Mids_Costcutter

Ben84 wrote: »

That recycling system sounds awful. Thankfully our local one involves two bins (alternate weeks, recycle and landfill) and a box for glass that goes out same day as recycle bin, simply because it makes a dangerous mess of broken bits if collected with the other recyclables. It really does work well and is minimal effort, so I wish newspapers would be more objective about the new recycling systems and show the other side, that it can and does work well in some areas.

Fully agree that there needs to be more reporting and publicity about recycling systems that do work, but of course that's not part of the Daily Mail's agenda. And the article wasn't at all sensationalist, was it? Are residents really forced to keep garden waste bins they have no need for?

The system in your area sounds a lot more straightforward, but then who sorts all the recyclables after they've been collected and delivered to their next destination? Local councils do need to try and stop recyclables from being contaminated otherwise their value as a commodity drops or sometimes they can't be sold at all. How do they stop that? This is not an easy process! Ultimately we've got to stop being a throwaway society.

dizzie

Heavens above...is this how desperate local councils are these days? Did they lose a lot of their council tax payers money in Iceland such that they have to resort to fining people for leaving a bin out for ONE extra day on ONE occasion? I think there must be too many council workers with little enough work to do...

I had a look at the Act in question...and you'd need to employ a bloomin' legal eagle to decipher it. I note it states:

(6) A person who fails, without reasonable excuse, to comply with any requirements imposed under subsection (1), (3)(c) or (d) or (4) above shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.


Well my reasonable excuse would be that an emergency situation had arisen...a relative had had some bad news or was ill or something and you had to travel to see them, so weren't at home to be able to take your bin back in until the next day. Ask them politely what you are meant to do when a family member is in distress...tell them you can't come because you need to hang around to take your bin in? Tell them also it was on a private road and not a public highway and explain that this is the first occasion that you have ever left the bin out overnight.



Failing that, tell them that you take waste management very seriously ...and for that reason you would strongly advice the council bods who served this penalty on you to get themselves down to the nearest amenities site.... and throw themselves into an appropriate skip...may I suggest Toxic Waste (though please tell them not to jump into any recycling receptacles since we don't want these blighters turning up in other councils across the country)! Good luck!!