Vacuum cleaner plug????

keith969

UK mains voltage is 230V and has been for quite a while. Actually its 230 +10 -6%, so could be anywhere between 216 and 253V

zax47

madjay wrote: »

You should not use it with out a convertor, in china equipment are only rated at 220volts in the uk the equipment is rated at 250volts. It will burn out very quickly.

What an absolute load of bollox! Maybe you shouldn't post on subjects you obviously know jack about?

UK was 240V (NEVER 250V!) for long enough, then brought into harmonisation with Europe at 230V +10% -6% (so 216-253V). In actuality nothing has changed from an electricity generation point of view, just how it is specified.

Inactive

zax47 wrote: »

What an absolute load of bollox! Maybe you shouldn't post on subjects you obviously know jack about?

But he has worked in the industry for 25 years, or so he says here;

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?p=18085891&highlight=#post18085891

See post number 11.:rotfl::rotfl::D

frank.hopper

real1314 wrote: »

This is wrong.

1400 watt vaccum:- 1400 /240 = 5.833 - use a 10 amp fuse

ormus was right! when if ever do you see a 10 amp fuse in a plug ?

madjay

If you read my post and not assmue what I wrote I did not state that the UK voltage was 250Volts I stated the equipment is rated at 250volts there is a difference. But you should still not plug 220volt equipment into the uk supply it will not work and will burn out.
The reason you don't see 10amp fuses in plugs is that no nothing people assume a 13amp plug should have a 13amp fuses in it.

zax47

Inactive wrote: »

But he has worked in the industry for 25 years, or so he says here;

Ditto! Qualified as a sparks (with a C&G 236) in 1984 and been at it ever since. Did a degree in Electronic Engineering at Leicester '85-87. (and I bet I can pi$$ up a wall higher too. :rotfl:)

madjay

zax47 wrote: »

Ditto! Qualified as a sparks (with a C&G 236) in 1984 and been at it ever since. Did a degree in Electronic Engineering at Leicester '85-87. (and I bet I can pi$$ up a wall higher too. :rotfl:)

But can not work out that if you plug in a 220volt equipment into a higher voltage it will burn out. basics

moonrakerz

zax47 wrote: »

What an absolute load of bollox! Maybe you shouldn't post on subjects you obviously know jack about?

UK was 240V (NEVER 250V!) for long enough, then brought into harmonisation with Europe at 230V +10% -6% (so 216-253V). In actuality nothing has changed from an electricity generation point of view, just how it is specified.

If we are going to get pedantic and somewhat aggressive about it - to say "UK was 240V ............. for long enough" is also incorrect. UK was and still is 240V - What it "says on the tin" is irrelevant.

To answer the OP, a 220V appliance will function quite happily on UK supply. It may not last quite as long but it is completely safe (providing it had been manufactured to a good standard - but that is another can of worms !)

zax47

madjay wrote: »

If you read my post and not assmue what I wrote I did not state that the UK voltage was 250Volts I stated the equipment is rated at 250volts there is a difference. But you should still not plug 220volt equipment into the uk supply it will not work and will burn out.

With all due respect - cobblers! Any design will have some sort of tolerance on the power input, such that over supply by such a comparatively small percentage should have little effect whatsoever. 253V single phase AC (max) vs 220V single phase AC is going to have !!!!!! all difference in this case. Certainly not something as simplistic as a vacuum cleaner, with nothing more sophisticated than a motor. Are you saying the components (suppressor etc.) will only be rated at precisely 220V maximum (not 220V +/- a %age) and thus self destruct at 230V (+10%-6%)? I doubt it - it might spin a little faster but you'll not notice.

IF, and only if, it had been a USA 240V device then I wouldn't use on our 230V supply. They derive their 240V (Yes, it's not all 120V :eek: and it stopped being 110V in the '50s) differently - using "split phase", rather than our single phase, to derive 240V from the -120V and +120V legs of a centre neutral tapped transformer (the ones you see on poles in the street on US TV progs & films). Most houses have two 120V single phases supplied to the building and allow use of both phases (relative to neutral) for a 240V split phase supply in utility rooms/kitchens, mainly used for big current appliances like dryers & ovens, etc. Mostly they run single 120V (+/- 10%) phases around the building for lights/sockets etc.

Flissh, bring your vacuum to me mate, I'll happily change the plug and plug it into our deadly 230V (+10%-6%) supply . :rotfl:

(and it's "know nothing" people) :T

keith969

madjay wrote: »

But can not work out that if you plug in a 220volt equipment into a higher voltage it will burn out. basics

Except it won't. If it was poorly designed it may fail early, but we are only talking about 4.5% overvoltage here, which is well within the tolerance of the mains.