Concessionary Bus Pass

briona

PipsoG wrote: »

Briona, that seems a brilliant suggestion - I think that if a member of my family had a difficulty in communicating I would be very concerned about them going on any transport alone. What happens in an emergency?

To be honest I'd be very surprised if someone who'd had a stroke and could no longer speak would WANT to travel alone but perhaps she wants to regain some independence?

I would definitely go with the laminated card idea (or series of cards depending on her needs – bus destinations, favourite coffee, brand of cigarettes, etc). And in case of emergency, perhaps a name badge or a "safety bracelet/wristband" with some key contacts on it?

Briona

kingfisherblue

oops, I was so long in typing (interrupted a few times!) that other posters said what I wanted to say, just far more eloquently.

I love the laminated card idea.

PipsoG

we all seem to be repeating ourselves - unfortunately, the OP doesn't seem to want to believe anybody unless he sees it in writing.

She must be a very brave lady if she feels able to travel away from her home. There is being independant and there is foolishness.

kingfisherblue

But the OP has seen it in writing, albeit only on this forum

Perhaps he could define where the cost of bus passes should come from, if not public funds?

MickBee

skgarg wrote: »

Please clarify, if anyone knows

Is a National Bus pass, issued to a disabled person after a GP's medical recommendation, classed under the definition of 'No recourse to public funds' as per immigration rules and the person is therefore not entitled for the Bus Pass?
If so, please also mention under which rule and section of any relevant act it is covered by.

If you look at the DirectGov website dealing with free Bus Passes,
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Publictransport/BusAndCoachTravel/DG_10036264 you will see at the beginning "...everyone who is resident in England and ..."

If the OP and partner have visas restricted as "without recourse to public funds", it is possible that the refusal by their local authority is because they are deemed to be visitors rather than residents. Maybe Oxford City Council have spelt out the refusal because they have come across this situation before.

skgarg

I have recieved clarification from Department of transport-

Section 3(1)(c) of the Immigration Act 1971 provides that if a person is given limited leave to enter or remain in the UK, it may be given subject to one or more specified conditions including a condition requiring the person to maintain and accommodate himself, and any dependants, without recourse to public funds.
A definition of “public funds” is provided in the Immigration Rules made under section 3(2) of the 1971 Act-
Travel concessions are not in that list.

The question is then whether the person can meet the residence requirement of the Concessionary Bus Travel Act 2007, a short Act which modifies the Transport Act 2000 and the Greater London Authority Act 1999. To be eligible for the statutory bus travel concession the person must have “sole or principal residence” in a local authority area in England . I attach this - reference to residence is in Annex C of the document.

Concessionary Travel
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skgarg

I recd this response from Department of Transport and it is not a public fund as per immigration rules-

Section 3(1)(c) of the Immigration Act 1971 provides that if a person is given limited leave to enter or remain in the UK, it may be given subject to one or more specified conditions including a condition requiring the person to maintain and accommodate himself, and any dependants, without recourse to public funds.
A definition of “public funds” is provided in the Immigration Rules made under section 3(2) of the 1971 Act-

Travel concessions are not in that list.

The question is then whether the person can meet the residence requirement of the Concessionary Bus Travel Act 2007, a short Act which modifies the Transport Act 2000 and the Greater London Authority Act 1999. To be eligible for the statutory bus travel concession the person must have “sole or principal residence” in a local authority area in England . I attach this - reference to residence is in Annex C of the document.

Concessionary Travel
TC6

alfred64

Concessionary bus passes also used to be allowed on National Express coaches on certain local routes which were 'registered sections'

But this no longer the case:

Dear Alfred xxxxx,
Thank you for getting in touch with us.

I can confirm that concessionary over 60s bus passes no longer permit free travel on any National Express service in England and Wales. Concessionary fares are available for anyone either over 60 years of age or registered disabled. Visit www.nationalexpress.com/coach for times, fares and booking options.

I hope this information helps. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you require further assistance.
Sincerely, Support Staff