Adding a lean-to, planning permission?

misskool

Hi all,

We were wondering if we would need permission to add a lean-to at the side of our house. It's just behind the back door, just need a space to throw muddy shoes off and not trek it into the kitchen. Also would be a small space for veg and to protect plant. The size will be about 1.5m x 2m (ish).

Tried looking through the council pages but got confused.

Thanks!

ormus

almost certainly no permission required.
the new rules last year, are very flexible in permitted development.

planning_officer

ormus wrote: »

almost certainly no permission required.
the new rules last year, are very flexible in permitted development.

That's not really true. PD is generally more flexible than before, but in fact, side extensions are now more restricted. If the house is in a conservation area, AONB or National Park, then planning permission will always be required for a side extension, irrespective of its size.

mollymunchkin

PP will also be required if it is a listed building.

ormus

yes yes yes we all know the exeptions.
but for a normal house in a normal setting, there should be no problem.
ie in 99% of cases.

misskool

planning_officer wrote: »

That's not really true. PD is generally more flexible than before, but in fact, side extensions are now more restricted. If the house is in a conservation area, AONB or National Park, then planning permission will always be required for a side extension, irrespective of its size.

The house isn't in a conservation area, AONB or national park but we have approximately 4 mature oaks (no TPOs, I think) to our side and right across the fence is a public footpath. The footpath is over 2 metres away.

If it worth ringing the planning office of the council? The last time I queried (Jan 2009) they said all side extensions needed PP.

Owain_Moneysaver

You may not need planning permission, but you will need Building Regulations approval unless the lean-to fals within the definition of a conservatory ie with translucent walls and ceiling.

Grz.26

I applied for permitted development consent to knock down my side lean-to thingy, and build a perminent structure to extend kitchen into, they told me that i should be ok for that, (the planning department) but they have regected that and i have to apply for full planning permission. I am however in a conservation area!

laurel7172

Planning permission aside, I've just put up a lean-to greenhouse and I'm pretty sure that if it were covering the back door it would HAVE to be toughened glass.

planning_officer

mollymunchkin wrote: »

PP will also be required if it is a listed building.

Not necessarily - it would need Listed Building Consent, but whether it's listed or not makes no difference in terms of whether it needs planning permission.

planning_officer

misskool wrote: »

The house isn't in a conservation area, AONB or national park but we have approximately 4 mature oaks (no TPOs, I think) to our side and right across the fence is a public footpath. The footpath is over 2 metres away.

In that case, yes - your extension needs planning permission, as it is on a side wall that faces a highway (that includes a public footpath).

ormus wrote: »

yes yes yes we all know the exeptions.
but for a normal house in a normal setting, there should be no problem.
ie in 99% of cases.

No, due to many factors. If the house has been extended before to the side, then it could well not be PD. Also, houses that have roads and public footpaths to the side will fall foul of the restrictions and will need to apply for planning permission for side extensions (as, ironically, in this case). Whilst in most cases, if there have been no previous side extensions, and it is the original side wall that is being extended from, a small side extension could well be PD, it's certainly nowhere near the 99% you quote.