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DRO not suitable now after Income support changes

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lauren_1
lauren_1 Posts: 2,067 Forumite
I've been Money Tipped!
The new changes regard CSA payments and IS means that a DRO will no longer be suitable as the changes will push me over £50 a month surplus but still not enough to pay me creditors. What options do i have now?

I have informed cccs as soon as i got the letter but there is no counsellor available till next friday!!
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  • confused76
    confused76 Posts: 12,680 Forumite
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    you could try the national debtline, you might be able to speak to someone sooner...
  • lauren_1
    lauren_1 Posts: 2,067 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    I actually got a callback to say someone could speak to me on tuesday
  • confused76
    confused76 Posts: 12,680 Forumite
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    oh that's good.....let us know how you get on...
  • debt_doctor
    debt_doctor Posts: 4,595 Forumite
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    lauren_1 wrote: »
    The new changes regard CSA payments and IS means that a DRO will no longer be suitable as the changes will push me over £50 a month surplus but still not enough to pay me creditors. What options do i have now?

    I have informed cccs as soon as i got the letter but there is no counsellor available till next friday!!

    How do you know that ?

    Are you making reasonable allowances for your essential and discretionary expenditure ?

    DD
    Debt Doctor, Debt caseworker, Citizens' Advice Bureau .
    Impartial debt advice services: Citizens Advice Bureau Find your local CAB *** National Debtline - Tel: 0808 808 4000*** BSC No. 100 ***
  • newdawn_2
    newdawn_2 Posts: 365 Forumite
    OP is right new rules means maintenance no longer taken into account I.S and Income based JSA and ESA from 12th April.
  • lauren_1
    lauren_1 Posts: 2,067 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Yes unfortunatly I cannot change my SOA with the CCCS as even though i have more money coming in, increasing my utilities to live comfortably for a change(i.e whacking the heating on when were freezing our tooshes off or spending more on treats for the children) would be purposly spending to ensure i fit the criteria.

    My SOA was made when we had litterally pennies at the end of the month and had to cut down, there was no option. But it cannot be changed sadly.
  • debt_doctor
    debt_doctor Posts: 4,595 Forumite
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    edited 4 April 2010 at 2:26PM
    lauren_1 wrote: »
    Yes unfortunatly I cannot change my SOA with the CCCS as even though i have more money coming in, increasing my utilities to live comfortably for a change(i.e whacking the heating on when were freezing our tooshes off or spending more on treats for the children) would be purposly spending to ensure i fit the criteria.

    My SOA was made when we had litterally pennies at the end of the month and had to cut down, there was no option. But it cannot be changed sadly.

    I think that is none sense from CCCS. Your entitled to reasonable living expenses as per the common financial statement. If that is their attitude then I suggest you go to the CAB or elsewhere with a more appropriate financial statement for your DRO.

    DD
    Debt Doctor, Debt caseworker, Citizens' Advice Bureau .
    Impartial debt advice services: Citizens Advice Bureau Find your local CAB *** National Debtline - Tel: 0808 808 4000*** BSC No. 100 ***
  • lauren_1
    lauren_1 Posts: 2,067 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Thank you debt doctor,

    My new SOA goes a little bit like this, due to some price increases the G&E has gone up and also i have raised my grocery bills.

    Rent £600 < £507 of this is paid by HB, but for some reason CCCS are putting it as £550 even though i get it calender monthly and not 4 weekly.

    Gas £30

    Electric £40

    Mobile £20-£25 < its a sim only deal, will i be allowed to keep it as its a month by month basis?

    Contact lenses £30 a month, i have a complex prescription and refuse to wear my 1 inch thick glasses which also cost me £170 a year (thats with a NHS voucher)

    Internet £5.99

    Groceries £250, includes everything house related

    Car ins £56

    Petrol etc etc £100 -£130

    car tax £68 for 6 months i think

    tv lisc £13ish

    water £41

    kids school clubs £4 a week (its swimming and cooking club) due to rise in sept when no2 starts school

    kids things £40 (clothes, out of school clubs, pocket money, once a month maccy d treat)

    hairdressers is nil for my and my DD but £3 a month for the boy (unless i let him grow it)

    Hair dye £6 every 4 weeks (i feel like a baglady but i refuse to look like one)

    Tobacco £20 a month

    BT £23 a month

    pet food £5 (scorpion, lives on crickets)

    Nursey fees £30 a month, ds gets his NEG but i pay for 2 days lunches a week.

    Clothes for me £10 < im shrinking

    the chistmas pot £20 a month

    the holiday pot £10 a month (we actually have never managed to go on holiday in the passed god knows how long but usually theres some emergency that i need the money for

    birthdays, £10 for siblings and partner, £40 for my children, about £10 a month then

    so total outgoings are £1386.99

    total incomings are

    HB £507 A MONTH
    CB £132
    IS new rate of £65 a week
    CTC of £330
    CSA £280

    new total income is £1509 so i have an excess of around £122 a month, i dont go out, my only treat is my contact lenses and hairdye. I am still job hunting and have been for 6 months now...no luck yet.

    So my excess £122 excludes me from a DRO, but only enough to pay 1 creditor, so unless i lose another £70 a month i am looking at bankruptcy
  • debt_doctor
    debt_doctor Posts: 4,595 Forumite
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    edited 6 April 2010 at 9:29PM
    Hi again,

    What is the make up of the family ? How many children and what are their ages ? (I'm a DRO intermediary, by the way!)

    If it's two adults and two children you could easily qualify for a DRO.

    DD
    Debt Doctor, Debt caseworker, Citizens' Advice Bureau .
    Impartial debt advice services: Citizens Advice Bureau Find your local CAB *** National Debtline - Tel: 0808 808 4000*** BSC No. 100 ***
  • lauren_1
    lauren_1 Posts: 2,067 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    its one adult and 2 children
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