Good News- Signallers Strike is cancelled!

Simon11

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Just out!!

helend

Can't see it being good news really.

Safety IS going to be compromised if they get rid of 1500 staff who inspect and maintain the tracks, signals etc. Track safety inspections and railway signals checks have already been reduced. How can this possibly be a good thing?

A cause/contributing factor of the Potters Bar accident was insufficient maintenance/not enough maintenance staff.

They are trying to reduce teams from 3 to 2 men teams, which means they are left without a "lookout", working on the railways is already one of the most dangerous jobs..

People are being very shortsighted if they think the changes Network Rail want to bring in will not make any difference to rail safety.

DaveMacD

Does anyone honestly think that they are doing this to cut costs so that the travelling public will benefit from lower prices? If NR is a not for profit organisation, then safety costs should not be a factor.

Simon11

Regarding Safety Issues, that’s a load of rubbish!

Deaths have been decreasing to hardly any now(Excluding suicides). Railways is one of the safety ways to travel, when compared to Cars.

You shouldn't listen to what Bob Crow says!! There comes a point where the added costs isn't worth the extra safety features.

Lots of new technology is being brought out to maintain the railways and there isn't a need for all these staff anymore. Unions just don't understand....

robt_2

helend wrote: »

Can't see it being good news really.

Safety IS going to be compromised if they get rid of 1500 staff who inspect and maintain the tracks, signals etc. Track safety inspections and railway signals checks have already been reduced. How can this possibly be a good thing?

A cause/contributing factor of the Potters Bar accident was insufficient maintenance/not enough maintenance staff.

They are trying to reduce teams from 3 to 2 men teams, which means they are left without a "lookout", working on the railways is already one of the most dangerous jobs - and indeed the private company who completed the inspections admitted this and paid out.

People are being very shortsighted if they think the changes Network Rail want to bring in will not make any difference to rail safety.

I for one will not be travelling by rail if the safety cuts go ahead - it will be a disaster waiting to happen.

Maybe you should not use a car or a bus or a plane either. Or a bike. Or leave your house. But then again most accidents happen in the home.

How will you get through the day? By posting melodramatic posts on message boards?

You must be either a union rep or are easily influenced by the media.

As for Potters Bar, the points were inspected TWICE in the ten days leading up to the accident. That is shoddy workmanship, not a lack of inspections. And the private company who completed the inspections admitted this and paid out.

Rolandtheroadie

robt wrote: »

As for Potters Bar, the points were inspected TWICE in the ten days leading up to the accident. That is shoddy workmanship, not a lack of inspections. And the private company who completed the inspections admitted this and paid out.

Lambrigg? Was that not picked up by the inspection train?
And your spot on about the shoddy workmanship by the private company. Thats where we're going back to.
Core staffing with everything else being covered by private companies who will supply labour as and when required.
Back to guys dragged out the pub on a Saturday afternoon instead of born and bred railwaymen/women.
You predicted the previous poster was a rep. Are you on role clarity perhaps?

Ms-Pacman

Simon11 wrote: »

Regarding Safety Issues, that’s a load of rubbish!

Deaths have been decreasing to hardly any now(Excluding suicides). Railways is one of the safety ways to travel, when compared to Cars.

You shouldn't listen to what Bob Crow says!! There comes a point where the added costs isn't worth the extra safety features.

Lots of new technology is being brought out to maintain the railways and there isn't a need for all these staff anymore. Unions just don't understand....

just interested, but do you work in NR?

roscolabri

Simon11 wrote: »

Regarding Safety Issues, that’s a load of rubbish!

Deaths have been decreasing to hardly any now(Excluding suicides). Railways is one of the safety ways to travel, when compared to Cars.

You shouldn't listen to what Bob Crow says!! There comes a point where the added costs isn't worth the extra safety features.

Lots of new technology is being brought out to maintain the railways and there isn't a need for all these staff anymore. Unions just don't understand....

And this technology is...?

Simon11

I work in the rail industry, and though I can't give out proper figures, i have seems the stats. Railways are one of the safest forms of transports possible.

Railway unions are very good giving their worker the wrong information!

I can't give out details, but for one union, every publication they give to their members they would have incorrect information. One example was when they published the stations which would face having strike action. However they listed a few stations where the company didn't actually have any staff working at that station.....

I rest my case.. Total BS

Inactive

Simon11 wrote: »

Railway unions are very good giving their worker the wrong information!



I rest my case.. Total BS

Of course Railway Management could never be accused of doing similar, that is until the next Potters Bar.

roscolabri

You say that the unions are very good at giving wrong information, but what about Network Rail?

Throughout the dispute they have constantly put themselves across to the public as if they aren't doing anything wrong. For a company that's trying to save money, hence the staff cuts, they seem to have an awfully big purse to spend on a few full page spreads in certain national newspapers just to get everyone all fired up at the RMT and it's members.

It's crazy that people constantly deny that with the new plans that Network Rail propose, the railway will be a safer place. It's nonsense.