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And you wonder why people just give up!

dickydonkin
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Just thought I would share my experience of a job application that progressed to first and second interview and the resulting 'outcome'.

The role was a position for a company called NEURO PARTNERS based here in the North East although they are expanding into different areas of the country. This organisation rehabilitates brain injured people and offers support to such people and their families.

I fulfilled all of the required criteria/job/person spec, and although I had never worked in that sector, I genuinely believed I had a good chance.

So far so good.

I was selected for interview which went very well and my hopes were raised even more when I was summoned for a second interview this week.

This interview was supposed to be with the MD and the HR Manager.

On entering the room for the second interview, the two people who were conducting the interview were not the same as I had been informed which was a shame as I had questions prepared relating to their roles.

I was also surprised however, that as the role involved a lot of training, that I was not asked to undertake some form of generic H&S presentation which is quite commonplace for such a role - however, the second interview turned out to be rushed (15-20 mins) and basically covered most of the issues from the first interview. Oh - and not to forget some drivel relating to my football allegiances.

What a wasted opportunity.

Never mind - interview concluded, I was informed that their decision would be communicated to me by mobile phone or email at the close of business on that very day.

Unfortunately, there was no communication from them on Tuesday, nothing on the Wednesday and as tomorrow is Good Friday with a long weekend looming, I decided to telephone them today for some interview feedback and hopefully being told of their decision at the same time.

I logged onto their website to obtain the appropriate contact, and for some reason checked their job vacancy site and I could not believe that the job I had been interviewed for two days ago and which I had still not received their decision (although now obviously apparent) was being advertised again with the closing date in two weeks time.

I telephoned one of the interviewers and she was obviously very very embarrassed and she explained that she will get someone to ring me back.

Still waiting!

Fortunately, I am working, but this was a role I would have enjoyed, but maybe I have had a lucky escape.

All they had to do was inform me that I did not meet their requirements before re-advertising for the role - surely that is not too difficult in this age of mobile phones, email etc is it?

Disappointed? - Yes, but is it any wonder why people looking for work become disillusioned?
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  • olias
    olias Posts: 3,588 Forumite
    Not unusual. I applied for a job two weeks ago in response to an ad in the local paper. I believe I fulfilled all the relevant criteria. Recieved an email last week apologising and saying that the person in the role currently has been pursuaded to stay, but they were very interested in my application and would keep my details on file for any future positions. This week, same job (slightly different wording) appeared in the local paper.

    If they did not wish to pursue my application, then why the flannel in the first email. If they were interested in me, and the job has become available again, then why not contact me and save the cost and aggro of the new ad?????????

    Olias
  • wuckfit
    wuckfit Posts: 544 Forumite
    I sent a CV in for a job and got a reply saying that they were "most impressed" with the content of my CV, and asking for an indication of salary expectations, to which I replied with a figure I had in mind, but I was prepared to be flexible as the whole package would need to be taken into account.
    So, naturally I assumed I'd be invited to interview. 10 days later I got an email saying I had been unsuccessful and would not be invited to interview.
    Despite being "most impressed", they decided not to interview? maybe they interviewed the ones they were unimpressed with...
  • missprice
    missprice Posts: 3,736 Forumite
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    I am having similar problems

    I am at least working (is it underemployed they call it now)

    but every job i apply for i get similar responses
    really good CV
    you have all the experience nec
    blah blah

    yet I still aint getting many interviews

    ah well keep trying eh
    63 mortgage payments to go.

    Zero wins 2016 😥
  • Clare_king
    Clare_king Posts: 80 Forumite
    I think if you have put yourself out to attend an interview, which often means taking time off work, and researching the company/job role, the least they can do is let you know the outcome. I have been in the same position, and I think it is probably as you think dpassmore, that you have had a lucky escape - just think, if this is how they treat you now, how will it be any better when you are working for them?!!!
  • BERFFRO
    BERFFRO Posts: 253 Forumite
    I've had a similar experience with an interview i went for, Although my interview didn't go as well as yours. I was told the same thing phone at end of the week etc, Then nothing just a poxy email!! I know i was more than capable to do the job easily, I'm more of a do-er than a talker which lets me down a lot! But now i have seen the person who got the job, OMG:eek: thats all i can say!!

    I think you got a lucky escape, Something much better is bound to turn up.
  • Eton_Rifle
    Eton_Rifle Posts: 372 Forumite
    So sorry to read this, I wish you better luck next time.

    By the way, the football discussion probably wasn't because they were interested in your views on that subject, they were trying to catch you off-guard to see how you 'really' respond.
  • dickydonkin
    dickydonkin Posts: 3,055 Forumite
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    edited 1 April 2010 at 5:53PM
    dpassmore wrote: »
    Just thought I would share my experience of a job application that progressed to first and second interview and the resulting 'outcome'.

    The role was a health and safety position for a company called NEURO PARTNERS based here in the North East although they are expanding into different areas of the country. This organisation rehabilitates brain injured people and offers support to such people and their families.

    I fulfilled all of the required criteria/job/person spec, and although I had never worked in that sector, I genuinely believed I had a good chance.

    So far so good.

    I was selected for interview which went very well and my hopes were raised even more when I was summoned for a second interview this week.

    This interview was supposed to be with the MD and the HR Manager.

    On entering the room for the second interview, the two people who were conducting the interview were not the same as I had been informed which was a shame as I had questions prepared relating to their roles.

    I was also surprised however, that as the role involved a lot of training, that I was not asked to undertake some form of generic H&S presentation which is quite commonplace for such a role - however, the second interview turned out to be rushed (15-20 mins) and basically covered most of the issues from the first interview. Oh - and not to forget some drivel relating to my football allegiances.

    What a wasted opportunity.

    Never mind - interview concluded, I was informed that their decision would be communicated to me by mobile phone or email at the close of business on that very day.

    Unfortunately, there was no communication from them on Tuesday, nothing on the Wednesday and as tomorrow is Good Friday with a long weekend looming, I decided to telephone them today for some interview feedback and hopefully being told of their decision at the same time.

    I logged onto their website to obtain the appropriate contact, and for some reason checked their job vacancy site and I could not believe that the job I had been interviewed for two days ago and which I had still not received their decision (although now obviously apparent) was being advertised again with the closing date in two weeks time.

    I telephoned one of the interviewers and she was obviously very very embarrassed and she explained that she will get someone to ring me back.

    Still waiting!

    Fortunately, I am working, but this was a role I would have enjoyed, but maybe I have had a lucky escape.

    All they had to do was inform me that I did not meet their requirements before re-advertising for the role - surely that is not too difficult in this age of mobile phones, email etc is it?

    Disappointed? - Yes, but is it any wonder why people looking for work become disillusioned?

    UPDATE

    The HR guy rang me back today (who was not involved with any of the interviews) and informed me that a letter was sent out on the day of the second interview informing me of their decision (30th March). I explained that as of 11:00 am today (April 1), no such letter had been received.

    I did ask why the information was not delivered by telephone or email on the day of the interview which was what I was informed would happen.

    Doing this would also have ensured both the candidates were aware they were unsuccessful prior to the job being re-advertised.

    He apologised as he was not aware that this was the way the outcome would be conveyed.

    What compounded the disappointment was that in the second interview stage, it was down to two candidates - so there really was no excuse not to telephone or email us both on the day to let us know of their decision - hardly time consuming.

    Anyway - this afternoon, I received the aforementioned letter and yes, it was dated the 30th March (the day of the interview) but the envelope was postmarked the 31st March.

    What made me even more incandescent was the content of the letter.

    Bearing in mind this was sent in response to a second interview involving only TWO candidates - both of who were not selected.

    Thank you for attending the interview for the role of blah blah........with Neuro Partners.

    At this stage we do not feel we can progress your application. The standard of applicants was very high, dictating that we have selected people with considerable experience.

    This is however more a reflection on demand opposed to any deficit on your part.

    Quite clearly, the author has used the template from the letter sent out to applicants who were not selected for interview, although, they should be credited for contacting all applicants if that was indeed the case.

    Remove "attending the interview" and replace with "applying for the role of".... and you get my drift.

    Nothing wrong with using templates, but tailor them to fit the situation for goodness sake.

    I have asked for feedback which I have been informed will be after next week. I was also told the other candidate has not asked for any feedback, however, I suggested that he also would not have received his letter.

    The irony has not been lost on today's date however. :(

    I apologise for the rant - but it has made me feel better and I am sure that many have had similar or worse experiences - it is disappointing not to be selected for the role - I will get over it - that certainly won't be the biggest disappointment in my life, but it is just the manner of informing me (or not) what was really galling.
  • teabelly
    teabelly Posts: 1,229 Forumite
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    Lucky escape. If they can't be bothered to treat potential employees properly, ones they've already employed could be treated with even less respect!
  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,641 Forumite
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    edited 2 April 2010 at 2:31PM
    Clare_king wrote: »
    I think if you have put yourself out to attend an interview, which often means taking time off work, and researching the company/job role, the least they can do is let you know the outcome. I have been in the same position, and I think it is probably as you think dpassmore, that you have had a lucky escape - just think, if this is how they treat you now, how will it be any better when you are working for them?!!!

    thats what gets me, i arrange to have time off work or to re arrange things to attend the interview and prepare myself but i dont receive any kind of communication after the interview to say yay or nay(has got better lately, but its happened in the past), i made the effort to attend so surely all they have to do is make the effort to let me know the outcome
    wuckfit wrote: »
    I sent a CV in for a job and got a reply saying that they were "most impressed" with the content of my CV, and asking for an indication of salary expectations, to which I replied with a figure I had in mind, but I was prepared to be flexible as the whole package would need to be taken into account.
    So, naturally I assumed I'd be invited to interview. 10 days later I got an email saying I had been unsuccessful and would not be invited to interview.
    Despite being "most impressed", they decided not to interview? maybe they interviewed the ones they were unimpressed with...

    so saying they were most impressed with the cv wasnt enough to get an interview then,
  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,641 Forumite
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    teabelly wrote: »
    Lucky escape. If they can't be bothered to treat potential employees properly, ones they've already employed could be treated with even less respect!

    thats how i see it, if a firm cant be bothered tro let me know the outcome then why should i bother with them
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