fixtures and fittings list

m_curiousity

Hi,

We're in the middle of buying our first house and just had the f&f list through. They've offered us the option to buy the dishwasher, fridge/freezer and washer/dryer for £300 inclusive.

As the EA told us all that stuff would be going we didnt take much notice of it, and dont know the brand name/model or have any real idea of what condition its in, however from a quick look online I can see new washer/dryers, (2-in-1) cost from £300+.

My questions are, does this seem like a reasonable price to pay for 3 appliances, (I know its difficult without knowing the make/condition, but I think they're all working fine - the tenants were using them and I'd imagine they'd have made a fuss with the landlord if they werent). Also, are we expected to haggle over this price? I know that 2nd hand you expect to pay a lot less than new, but I dont know what kind of percentage of the cost I should be looking at offering - would buyers normally ask the vendor to tell them the make/model/condition of the appliances or would you just take your chances??

Ta for any help guys!

Fire_Fox

Don't buy a washer-dryer, the dryer capability is rubbish. The obvious thing to do is ring the estate agent and ask for WRITTEN confirmation of the make, model and age of each appliance and confirmation that they are currently in full working order. Never imagine or assume anything when it comes to money, tenants quite often do not inform their landlords of problems with a property.

Imp

Check out the second hand cost of the appliances rather than new - after all, that is what you will be buying. They would probably by 50-100 pounds each, and if coming out of a rental property, they will probably have been abused for the duration of their life.

m_curiousity

Thanks firefox.

So if we got confirmation and then they werent working when we moved in would we be able to get some/all of the money back or is it just hard luck?

Fire_Fox

m_curiousity wrote: »

Thanks firefox.

So if we got confirmation and then they werent working when we moved in would we be able to get some/all of the money back or is it just hard luck?

The vendors might then claim the appliances were working on the day they responded to your query, which is probably a several months before the day you complete. No guarantees but asking for written confirmation it would make the average person a little more windy about fleecing their buyer. I would find out how old the appliances are before you go any further - if they are all one year old it doesn't really matter how they have been treated by the tenants, it is a simple matter to run a service wash and empty all the filters etc.

G_M

m_curiousity wrote: »

Thanks firefox.

So if we got confirmation and then they werent working when we moved in would we be able to get some/all of the money back or is it just hard luck?

If they put in writing 'working' then they have to be 'working'!

Once you've got full details, yes, haggle. Look in the local paper/ebay and see what you'd have to pay to get similar.

wessexw

I've been advised in the past not to accept appliances other than a cooker when purchasing a property as you could quite quickly land yourself in repair bills for them which (hopefully) you wouldn't have if you bought your own applicances new and to your own taste and most importantly under warranty. However if money is a bit tight then it's worth thinking about taking these but if it were me and I could afford to, I'd just buy my own.

keith969

If they are more than 2 years old (with the exception of the fridge/freezer which should be more reliable) I would say don't bother. The chances of them failing are going to be fairly high.

andys15

I would call their bluff. I have done it twice when buying a house. Told them I want nothing, and they just ended up leaving it anyway. They obvioulsy dont want there white goods, and they are a hassle to remove. Say no thanks and they might leave them anyway. If they dont £300 is way way to much. Second hand they might get £80 each, if they are in decent nick, and a decent brand.

rlfan82

andys15 wrote: »

I would call their bluff. I have done it twice when buying a house. Told them I want nothing, and they just ended up leaving it anyway. They obvioulsy dont want there white goods, and they are a hassle to remove. Say no thanks and they might leave them anyway. If they dont £300 is way way to much. Second hand they might get £80 each, if they are in decent nick, and a decent brand.

on our 1st house there wasnt even a fridge on the F&F list and they left it anyway. agree with above poster. Say its not needed.

Only other thing is seller may sell them on ebay, but then will get a poor price and incur hassle and commission fee's. If you want them, offer £150

wessexw

If they leave them in the property though and you don't want them then isn't that a whole load of hassle for you to get rid of them? I'd be mighty peed off if I walked in to my new home to find a load of stuff that I didn't want and that was now my responsibility to get rid of!