Reporting Fruad Marriage

a4alfa

Hello everyone,
I need some advice regarding Immegration and Marriages etc, I hope someone can help me, as I am very busy at work and cant go to a Solicitor easily. (so only want to go once I am sure about what I want to do)

Basically, I have a very good close friend and we have been friends for over 15 years so I know her very well... anyway, she recently started to use computer and got hooked onto messenger services and chat rooms etc and now all of a sudden she wants to marry someone she chatted to over the internet. The Problem here is that he is about 30 and still registered as a student in the UK (in one of the Bogous colleges ) and she is 19 and very nieve and very simple and does not have much street sense. I have used my contacts and found out that he is just using her for passport as he has a wife in the African country where he comes from.. (before someone shouts racist, my friend herself is of the same ethnic origin as that guy but she is British).. He does have some other friends who married British girls and now they have got the Nationalities they dont live with the girls anymore...

I am happy for my friend that she should get married, but he is telling her not to involve her parents etc and just marry him next week.... I smell a rat as I am sure her parents would not approve of him and besides he is very good at sweet talking and he is sweet talking my friend... I fear for her to be messed about once he has what he wants and I want to prevent that...

I want to know who I should contact to make sure that he is not just able to get the British Citizenship / Indefinate leave to remain in the UK as once he has got that then I am 101% sure my friend would be single (or maybe single mum) soon after.
Secondly I know that my friend is an Adult by law, but I think she is being bullied psycologically into this shameful marriage by the guy and his male friends, so I want to be able to report that to someone to independantly check her psycological profile as I and few other friends have tried talking some sence to her but she does not listen at all and starts crying (no, she is not pregnant)...

I have looked on the home office website and didnt find much useful information there.. Can someone please advise me what to do next? I know she will be marrying him next week or so (even though she only known him for a couple of months) but I want to make sure he doesnt get an easy ride and dump her..

Scarlett1

mmmmm Im not sure but I doubt very much that you can stop a wedding between 2 adults

I sympathise with the situation and agree that you're friend is likey to be eaten up and spat out, maybe go to the church and make a stand when the vicar asks if there is any reason why they shouldnt marry, you can say yer he already has a wife :rolleyes:

It might be a case of contacting immigration after the wedding and reporting it as a bogus marriage, but saying that, if you have this guys's details it might be worth ringing them anyway for advice, for all you know his visa might have expired.

Sorry cant help much, shame such a young girl is being manipulated into doing something which you have no control over

Let us know what happens xxx

seven-day-weekend

Scarlett1 wrote:

mmmmm make a stand when the vicar asks if there is any reason why they shouldnt marry, you can say yer he already has a wife :rolleyes:

xxx

In every marriage, religious or civil, there is a chance to say if anyone knows of any 'lawful impediment' that will prevent the couple marrying. There are also the banns beforehand, which are read out in church for three weeks running prior to the marriage, or posted at the registry office; the whole point of these is to give people the chance to say if there is a legal reason why the wedding should not go ahead.

So there is your chance if you are sure he has a legal wife.

rchddap1

My parents would kill me if I got married without them being there. If it was my friend and I knew where her parents were I'd be very tempted to let them know what was going on. In fact I'm certain I'd have a quick chat with them.

I smell a very smelly rat here.

Fran

I know these websites are not exactly what you're looking for but they can probably advise/put you in contact with the right people(?)

Refugee Action and Refugee Council.

redballoon_2

could you try and find out where they wil get married and speak to the registrar/vicar?

black-saturn

Has she met the guy off the internet? I'm all in favour of meeting people from the internet as long as it's controlled and safe. 19 sounds a bit young though. If she hasn't met him try to suggest they meet. Go along with her if you can or make sure someone else goes along with her. Also if she hasn't met him she might soon go off him once she does.

This is a chance to tell you a horror story about someone I knew who met someone from the net. He has always wanted to live in the US but couldnt get a job there so he decided to get the internet (he only bought a comp for this reason) and start chatting to an American girl so that they could fall in love and he could move there. So he starts talking to loads of US girls and they were all madly in love with him even though none of them had ever met him. He settled on one girl who was very young at the time (17 as far as I remember). He talked to her online for about 20 hours per day and they decided to get married (even though they still hadn't met). He'd seen lots of her on the webcam (if you know what I mean ) and chatted with her about everything so he really thought he knew her. Anyway, this went on for about 3 years and eventually he said he wanted to move to the US. Her parents disagreed with it and didn't want him in their house. So it was decided that she would get her own place and he would come for a visit and they would make it look like they were 2 penpals who met and fell in love and he decided to stay there. Only problem was that she didn't have any money to put as a rental deposit on a place. So get this - he sent her his life savings of £13,000 straight to her bank account :eek: Then for about a year she kept saying she couldnt find anywhere suitable. He then sent her an engagement ring that cost another £600. Then she said she had found somewhere suitable and sent him a load of pictures of this wonderful house she had found. But she said she didn't have enough money. He fell for it and sent her a further £3,000. She moved into this lovely house and he went over there for a visit as planned. But when they met she said he wasn't her type and he was only there a couple of days before he was back at the airport trying to get a flight home. When he spoke about it he said "Oh well, some things just don't work out" like it didn't matter. I'd be fuming!!

wigginsmum

You can meet some real nutters on the Net. A friend of mine who's been really lonely since his marriage broke up befriended this American woman online and was instantly smitten. He flew out there thinking it'd be the start of something great, and she announced she couldn't have a relationship with him because her spirit guides had revealed he'd murdered her in a previous life and she couldn't interfere with the bad karma he had to work off.

black-saturn

wigginsmum wrote:

You can meet some real nutters on the Net. A friend of mine who's been really lonely since his marriage broke up befriended this American woman online and was instantly smitten. He flew out there thinking it'd be the start of something great, and she announced she couldn't have a relationship with him because her spirit guides had revealed he'd murdered her in a previous life and she couldn't interfere with the bad karma he had to work off.

lol, thats the most elaborate fob off I've heard.

wigginsmum

Yeah - unfortunately he believed it totally, and subsequently had a breakdown and a couple of suicide attempts

arnie&caseysma!

Try speaking to your local police for advice, they usually will have contact numbers for the Immigration Service and can either pass details onto them or let you know how you can contacnt them yourself if you have no details.

If you know details of this guy then pass those, along with the details of the wedding to police/immigration and they can attend and deal with him as necessary if he is an overstayer etc. It may also be that he is committing bigamy especially if his African marriage is recognised in this country.

Good luck whatever you decide to do.