Student Loan Application 2010/11 rejected because of 3 year residence period

mancmum

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/

I would go to these people for advice.

I work in student finance but not for a mainstream institution.or for the EU student finance unit so I don't have experience on how the decision is made to determine nationality. However, I do know that it is not always straightforward. My experience is that the decisions are often not always made correctly - especially when there was an influx of short term call centre staff. I've successfully had decisions reversed from Student Finance England, LEAs and the Council Tax. Equally, I've seen those experienced in immigration law obtaining different results in court from my reading of the regulations.

While not advocating lying I am also aware that student records officers know that some information can never be verified.

There is always the letter of the law and what decisions are made practically by the officer responsible for determining your status.

this is UKCISA's view on residency.

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_sheets/tuition_fees_ewni.php#box3

My advice would be to read this through, think about it carefully, think about what your family might be able to do to strengthen your claim.

If you were to arrive in the UK study at one of the universities that has offered you a place and you then found out that you were not classified as an EU student if you withdraw very soon after the start of your course, then you are unlikely to owe anything in fees. Check out the refund policy of the university.

Its better to give people signposts and let them make decisions.#

Only you can make the decision on what to do.

If someone else is claiming expert knowledge then you can listen to them but it will always be you that makes the final choice.

Voyager2002

mancmum wrote: »

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/

I would go to these people for advice.

I work in student finance but not for a mainstream institution.or for the EU student finance unit so I don't have experience on how the decision is made to determine nationality. However, I do know that it is not always straightforward. My experience is that the decisions are often not always made correctly - especially when there was an influx of short term call centre staff. I've successfully had decisions reversed from Student Finance England, LEAs and the Council Tax. Equally, I've seen those experienced in immigration law obtaining different results in court from my reading of the regulations.

While not advocating lying I am also aware that student records officers know that some information can never be verified.

There is always the letter of the law and what decisions are made practically by the officer responsible for determining your status.

this is UKCISA's view on residency.

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_sheets/tuition_fees_ewni.php#box3

My advice would be to read this through, think about it carefully, think about what your family might be able to do to strengthen your claim.

If you were to arrive in the UK study at one of the universities that has offered you a place and you then found out that you were not classified as an EU student if you withdraw very soon after the start of your course, then you are unlikely to owe anything in fees. Check out the refund policy of the university.

Its better to give people signposts and let them make decisions.#

Only you can make the decision on what to do.

If someone else is claiming expert knowledge then you can listen to them but it will always be you that makes the final choice.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing ...

We have heard from Taiko, who is one of the people responsible for making exactly this kind of decision. His response is very definite.

Fiddlestick

patrick101 wrote: »

Anyone's help who knows about Scottish universities and their rules would be highly appreciated.

Pretty sure you need to be domiciled in Scotland.

This is precisely to stop people coming up from England and not paying fees.

melancholly

Taiko wrote: »

And with regards to the Scottish system, the OP is ineligible for the fees-only award from them as well. 3 years ordinary residence, or breaks due to temporary employment abroad.

i suppose the advantage would be that the fees would be lower.... but maybe with a 4 year course, that wouldn't work out so much cheaper in the end....

Taiko

Indeed. But on the eligibility front, they'll not be entitled.

During the course of this thread, I have repeatedly sang the word "Ineligible" to the tune of The Shamen's 1992 hit "Ebeneezer Goode" in my head. Maybe I'm finally going mad...

melancholly

so you thought you'd stick the song in my head, did you?!?! this is going to drive me insane for the rest of the day!

Taiko

If you can picture someone singing the word "Ineligible" down the phone to people to that tune, then my job is done.

bernard92

Hey Taiko! It seems that everyone is saying that you’re an expert in Student Finance and their regulations. Please help me!

I’m Greek with the citizenship and passport and everything. I was born in Greece and lived there my entire life until I decided to study abroad in Australia in 2009. So, I left Greece and I have been in Australia every since on full-time education, living in the dorms. My parents of course are still at our same address in Greece, working and paying taxes and all. But, I’m not so happy here … Everyone I know is studying back in London and I really want to join them. But I’m scared that I may not be able to apply for a student loan and therefore be considered an international student. I read somewhere that full-time education abroad is an exception. Is that true? I hope it is ...

Any help will be very much appreciated, thank you.

bernard92

Please ... Can anyone reply back to me ? I really need your help
I don't know what to do ...

devildog

Hopefully Taiko will see this and respond(it may be that he hasn't looked on this thread because he had already commented on the previous cases.
It may be worth you starting a new thread.