Holiday entitlement for a new job?

bailey59

I am possibly starting a new full time job on the 1st June. I am not sure how the companys holidays are accrued yet but I have 2 weeks holidays booked for the last week in July 1st week in August. The new prospective employer has asked me if I will be ok to fund the time off myself. Is this normal or would I be entitled to paid holidays?

Thanks

bezzza

I suppose it depends on company policy but all the companies I have worked for allow you to accrue holidays each month (is it still 2.33 days per month based on minimum holidays - someone will be along shortly to let you know) and then at the start of the next holiday year you have your full allowance to take as and when you like (again ,please check your company policy) so I would say you should be due 2.33 days (based on FULL month worked) or MAY be due about 4 days paid holiday by the time you take your holidays (if you have a generous employer). I personally would take it as unpaid and then you can still accrue more holiday time for holidays later in year. Enjoy your holiday!

anamenottaken

bailey59 wrote: »

I am possibly starting a new full time job on the 1st June. I am not sure how the companys holidays are accrued yet but I have 2 weeks holidays booked for the last week in July 1st week in August. The new prospective employer has asked me if I will be ok to fund the time off myself. Is this normal or would I be entitled to paid holidays?

Thanks

It's not normal for someone starting a permanent job. Normally you are allowed to take paid holiday in anticipation of your "earning" the holiday in future months and for the company to have the right to reclaim any over-paid holiday if you leave before having actually earned the amount of time taken off.

jdturk

anamenottaken wrote: »

It's not normal for someone starting a permanent job. Normally you are allowed to take paid holiday in anticipation of your "earning" the holiday in future months and for the company to have the right to reclaim any over-paid holiday if you leave before having actually earned the amount of time taken off.

However in the first year they are within their right to not allow holiday to be taken of paid until it is earnt

Savvy_Sue

Where I work we would pay you, but your contract would say that if you leave after taking more holidays than you're entitled to we'll deduct it from your final salary.

However I know that other places would not allow you to take any paid leave in the first X months.

paulwf

The main issue would be if you are paid weekly rather than monthly, in which case for the first year they would probably request that holiday is taken only when accrued.

donnajunkie

jdturk wrote: »

However in the first year they are within their right to not allow holiday to be taken of paid until it is earnt

i'm not having a go at you but this rule some companies have has always made me laugh. well doesnt it effectively mean everyone has to wait until its close to the end of the year before they can take most of their holidays? infact going by this the 2 days or whatever it is people earn in the last month of the year surely cant be taken until the following year starts. this is just going by this logic of thinking that some companies have that you have to have earnt the holiday before you can take it.

donnajunkie

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Where I work we would pay you, but your contract would say that if you leave after taking more holidays than you're entitled to we'll deduct it from your final salary.

However I know that other places would not allow you to take any paid leave in the first X months.

i can understand companies wanting to protect themselves from someone who would start work and then shortly after ask to take all of their holidays in one go and then they resign afterwards. there wont be many people who would try that anyway. a fair way of doing things in my opinion is for them to say you can only have holidays in the first 3 months if you can show that any holiday you have booked was done so before you started working for us. i think after 3 months people should be able to take the allocated holidays any time they want to. i dont agree with the holidays have to be earnt rule. i also think it doesnt make financial sense for a company to refuse to pay people for holidays they take soon after starting. why? lets say their holidays are for 2 weeks and the company gives 6 weeks holiday a year. if they included the 2 weeks within that allocation it would mean that the employee would only likely be away from work for 6 weeks over the year. if they dont count the 2 weeks as paid holiday then it means the employee still has those 6 weeks to take later. so they will be off for 8 weeks altogether over the year. so because of a silly rule they are losing an extra 2 weeks of work from the employee.

jdturk

donnajunkie wrote: »

i'm not having a go at you but this rule some companies have has always made me laugh. well doesnt it effectively mean everyone has to wait until its close to the end of the year before they can take most of their holidays? infact going by this the 2 days or whatever it is people earn in the last month of the year surely cant be taken until the following year starts. this is just going by this logic of thinking that some companies have that you have to have earnt the holiday before you can take it.

I agree, its far easier to pay the employee the holiday pay and if they leave early claim it back from the wages at the end.

getmore4less

The problem is that if you take the 2 weeks unpaid you don't accumulate holiday for those 2 weeks.

sensible employer would ask what holidays you have booked and as long as they fall within te allowance let you take them but not let you book any more till you have catch up IYSWIM.

donnajunkie

jdturk wrote: »

I agree, its far easier to pay the employee the holiday pay and if they leave early claim it back from the wages at the end.

i agree but it should be worked out in a fair way. for example this should only apply if you resign or are sacked. if they no longer have work for you its not your fault. so you should not be penalised. to be fair to the employers i have worked for i have on a few occasions taken all the holidays and then they have made me redundant but have not tried to claim any of the holiday money back from me. with one job i started in the middle of december and they still let me take holidays at xmas, i mean as well as the bank holidays.