Saving money by not paying for microsoft licenses?

rhythmsoup

Id still be interested in seeing how many folks here on MSE forums have tried this?

daedana

Haven't tried it. I build my last PC myself from parts and they didn't force me to get a Windows with that. Though that was in Finland, not sure of UK.

Mobeer

Dell will also probably get paid for bundling applications, trials etc. There's a good example list on the page below:
http://www.markwilson.co.uk/blog/2008/12/tracking-down-and-removing-unwanted-software-bundled-with-a-new-pc.htm

If the PC had no operating system installed (or an incompatible operating system), then these things couldn't be pre-installed.

Marty_J

Brenda wrote: »

The OP's point is that the manufacturer should charge less money for supplying a computer with no software pre-installed - because the manufacturer is not having to pay the software company for the software and its licences.

Or are you suggesting that Microsoft gives computer manufacturers its software for nothing and pays them a subsidy to pre-install it?

Most computer manufacturers make lots of money by pre-installing all that junk trialware on their machines.

Computers that don't come with all that crap (e.g. Apple, Lenovo) tend to be more expensive.

poppy10_2

Marty_J wrote: »

Most computer manufacturers make lots of money by pre-installing all that junk trialware on their machines.

A good reason to always format and clean install any new computer you buy. Unless it's an Apple, of course

rhythmsoup

poppy10 wrote: »

A good reason to always format and clean install any new computer you buy. Unless it's an Apple, of course

As most new PCs nowdays come only with "recovery" media either on a partition on a CD/DVD. The recovery software will just restore the PC back to how it was when you bought it complete with all the bundled "bloatware". How would you clean install then?

Eric_Pisch

rhythmsoup wrote: »

As most new PCs nowdays come only with "recovery" media either on a partition on a CD/DVD. The recovery software will just restore the PC back to how it was when you bought it complete with all the bundled "bloatware". How would you clean install then?

as said the decent ones dont have all the crap and actually take a snap shop when your ready for restore, so you can remove and configure what you want before setting the starting point

OP the best way to do this is to build your own rig, its not that hard now.

and the reason they don't have a no OS option is simple, market domination, you want to sell windoze and get a discount you sign to say you will pre-install it on all your machines

poppy10_2

rhythmsoup wrote: »

As most new PCs nowdays come only with "recovery" media either on a partition on a CD/DVD. The recovery software will just restore the PC back to how it was when you bought it complete with all the bundled "bloatware". How would you clean install then?

Thepiratebay. I've already paid Microsoft for the OS license so I don't feel bad about downloading a free clean version.

Millionaire

Brenda wrote: »

Although it's true that Mac computers thankfully don't come burdened with masses of third party trialware, it should not be forgotten that they do come pre-supplied with a 30-day trial version of Microsoft Office.

The benefit still on a Mac is that it doesn't come pre-installed, you just have the installer file on it and the user has the choice of either installing it or just deleting it or do nothing with it.

Unfortunately on Windows it's quite the opposite and can take a considerable amount of time to just remove all the pre installed trial-ware.

[Deleted User]

Brenda wrote: »

When I was looking at netbooks, a couple of years ago, some were available with either Linux or Windows pre-installed. The Windows versions were about £35 more expensive than the Linux versions.

So, are you explaining that the reason why the Linux version was cheaper than the Windows version is because of the "commonly-known fact" that "the ISVs" pay even vaster amounts of money to the "OEMs" to pre-install Linux and Linux programs than to pre-install Windows and Windows bloatware?

Look back and you'll see that the Netbooks that came with Linux had less RAM and less HDD space than the Windows ones, that is why they were cheaper in comparison.