Dell laptop?

breadwinners

How quickly do they tend to ship their laptops that aren't advertised as 48 hours?

What significant differences are there between these two to justify an extra £100?
http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspiron-1764?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&~oid=uk~en~20211~inspiron-1764_n0076406~~


http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspiron-1764?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&~oid=uk~en~20211~inspiron-1764_n0076401~~

Thank you in advance.

JasX

Most people would look at the spec and play "spot the difference"

The expensive one:
Components

Intel® Core™ i5-430M (2.26Ghz, 4Threads, turbo boost up to 2.53 GHz, 3M cache)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
Microsoft® Works 9.0 / English - (Does not include Microsoft® Word)
1 year of coverage included with your PC
McAfee® Security Centre™ 15-month subscription
Obsidian Black
N0376406
Inspiron 1764 Order - UK
17.3" WLED High Definition + (1600 x 900) TFT Display with TrueLife™
1.3 Mega pixel Integrated Web Camera
English Documentation
3072MB 1067MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [1x1024 + 1x2048]
320GB (5,400rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
Inspiron 1764 Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)
DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD)
65W AC Adaptor
Primary 6-cell 48 WHr Lithium Ion battery
1 year of coverage included with your PC
No Carry Case
Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Dell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g)
Internal UK/Irish Qwerty Keyboard
No Accidental Damage Support
No DataSafe Online Backup 2GB (Direct)
1 Meter Power Cord - UK
Wireless Label CI5
Dell Wireless 365 Bluetooth Module - European


The cheap one
Intel® Core™ i3-330M (2.13Ghz, 4Threads, 3M cache)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
Microsoft® Works 9.0 / English - (Does not include Microsoft® Word)
1 year of coverage included with your PC
McAfee® Security Centre™ 15-month subscription
Obsidian Black
N0376401
Inspiron 1764 Order - UK
17.3" WLED High Definition + (1600 x 900) TFT Display with TrueLife™
1.3 Mega pixel Integrated Web Camera
English Documentation
3072MB 1067MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [1x1024 + 1x2048]
250GB (5,400rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
Inspiron 1764 Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)
DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD)
65W AC Adaptor
Primary 6-cell 48 WHr Lithium Ion battery
1 year of coverage included with your PC
No Carry Case
Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Dell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g)
Internal UK/Irish Qwerty Keyboard
No Accidental Damage Support
No DataSafe Online Backup 2GB (Direct)
1 Meter Power Cord - UK
Wireless Label CI3

breadwinners

Thanks, I had seen all that.
I was hoping for a techie to numptie translation.

For example I haven't a clue on the difference between i3 and i5.

What difference 3 to 4 RAM makes ( actually those are both 3 I've been looking at too many).......that kinda thing.

davester

about 14-21 days if they have to build it and ship from china,

JasX

One has a slightly faster processor, a bit more space on the hard drive and bluetooth.

Bluetooth can be added by USB later for about £2
70GB isn't very much in the grand scheme of things, you can always add external portable USB drives
the processor you'd need to look up on a benchmarking site, is probably a 'bit' faster but probably not hugely so

EDIT the 430 is roughly 25% faster/more powerful than the 330

breadwinners

Thank you both. Hard drive capacity and bluetooth not too important to me.

I suppose I just want it to be reasonably fast even though I don't do anything too laborious. Might have several applications on the go at the same time but that's about it.

The other thing that confused me was some of the Dell laptops highlighted HDMI as a feature and yet when I looked at the spec, they all mention HDMI port. I would like to sometimes connect to TV in living room via HDMI. That is standard nowadays, right?

Wireless 802.11 b/g........ something about upgrade to n. I just have a fairly old netgear router so would b/g be sufficient?

JasX

breadwinners wrote: »

The other thing that confused me was some of the Dell laptops highlighted HDMI as a feature and yet when I looked at the spec, they all mention HDMI port. I would like to sometimes connect to TV in living room via HDMI. That is standard nowadays, right?

Wireless 802.11 b/g........ something about upgrade to n. I just have a fairly old netgear router so would b/g be sufficient?

I'm 90% sure they will both have it, you could always phone up dell and ask if you need to be 100%. OHs laptop has HDMI and that dates back to 2007, I imagine it'll be pretty standard by now yes.

Wireless b/g will be fine for now, anything N will be backward compatible, if you're really reallly fussed about that bit extra wireless network speed you can but a wireless N mini card in future for about £30, but both will only be as fast as your internet connection unless your're needing to move things quickly, wirelessly within your own house.

breadwinners

Thanks again.
Ok, don't know if it's just a sales tactic but offers seem to end today.

This one is available within 48hours ( although I could wait the 2-3 weeks ).
It says it was £613 now £499 so I feel as though I might be getting better value for money but looking for you guys to confirm.
How does the processor and memory compare to the first two I mentioned in this thread?

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-inspiron-17?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&~oid=uk~en~20211~laptop-inspiron-1750_n0075007~~

PROCESSORIntel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor T4400 (2.2GHz, 800MHz, 1MB cache)editOPERATING SYSTEMGenuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64 bit - EnglisheditSERVICES AND SUPPORT1 year of coverage included with your PCeditSECURITY SOFTWAREMcAfee® Security Centre - 15 Month ProtectioneditAlso included with your systemAccidental Damage SupportNo Accidental Damage Support
BaseInspiron 1750 (UK, FCG28) - T4400 (2.2GHz, 800MHz, 1MB)
Gedis Bundle ReferenceN0475007
Order InformationInspiron 1750 BTS Order - UK
LCD17.3" WLED High Definition + (1600 x 900) TFT Display with TrueLife™
Camera1.3 Mega pixel Integrated Web Camera
Colour ChoiceObsidian Black colour with custom high-gloss finish
Shipping DocumentsDocumentation Inspiron 1750
Memory4096MB 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x2048]
Hard Drive320GB (5,400rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
Dell System Media KitInspiron 1750 Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)
Optical DevicesDVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD)
Power Supply65W AC Adaptor
Primary BatteryPrimary 6-cell 48 WHr Lithium Ion battery
Carrying CasesNo Carry Case
Cables1 Meter Power Cord
Standard Warranty1 year of coverage included with your PC
Video CardIntel Integrated GMA 4500MHD
Wireless NetworkingDell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g)
BluetoothNo Bluetooth Upgrade
KeyboardInternal Keyboard
Microsoft Application SoftwareMicrosoft® Works 9.0 - (Does not include Microsoft® Word)


This is a minefield.

JasX

breadwinners wrote: »

Thanks again.
Ok, don't know if it's just a sales tactic but offers seem to end today.

yes dell always do that, but a week or two after the last one ends there is always another offer.

Around xmas/january you could pickup a reasonable one for £350odd so they don't seem the best Dell deals I've seen recently.

Don't forget to use cashback sites/discount codes if you can....

I hear http://www.dmxdimension.com/ usually has good deals on new Dells too

JasX

breadwinners wrote: »

How does the processor and memory compare to the first two I mentioned in this thread?

You have 1GB more RAM but it is old DDR2 stuff so slower AND a generation behind the DDR3 in the first two.

The processor is also slower, its about the same difference between first two slower than the slowest one you first linked to.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

CPU #Mark index scores (higher is better)

T4400 = 1569
i3-330M= 2034
i5-430M= 2425

I wouldn't go for the 3rd/T4400 one

breadwinners

Ok, thanks a lot. Just been looking at the link you gave. The prices look the same and link straight back to Dell so may as well go direct via quidco and get 7% off.

Thanks for all this info on processors/memory. That's what lets me down totally and don't want to throw away money.