Selling House with Solar PV

Milliewilly

izzzzythedog wrote: »

ahhhhhh ignorence is bliss isnt it

http://www.reuk.co.uk/Solar-Roof-Tiles.htm

when fitted almost impossible to see , no maintence , take up no room at all , increses the worth of the property plus reduces you bills down to near nothing , cant see it catching on at all

No not ignorance - reality - imagine those on a beautiful period property. If you think those tiles look attractive then fair enough - I personally dont, plus they have to go facing SW to get the sun not necessarily where you would want them to go aesthetically.

I made no mention of maintenance or space?

Increases the worth - thats debateable according to the topic of this post. Reduces bills down - agree but how many years is it going to take to recoup the installation before you see a return? Your link states an average cost for installation of £8K to 12K assuming you are eligible for a government grant of £8K! So, it will take you about 10 - 15 years at least to break even by which time there will be better more efficient alternatives and you cannot say you will even be living there!

So no can't see it catching on at all at those prices. Certainly wouldn't temt me to buy.

silvercar

I don't get why you can't take it with you. Its your property, you own it outright. Say on the F&F sheet that it isn't included in the sale and then dismantle it and take it with you.

If a property is worth X without it and it costs Y. It doesn't automatically follow that its now worth X+Y+income stream allowance. Only some buyers will be interested, the rest just want the best house at the best price or some combination of that. At a time when getting a mortgage means maxing the deposit, no-one wants a house overpriced by extras that reap the benefit 10 years down the line.

poppysarah

kittie wrote: »

expecting to receive 36p /unit for electricity put back into the grid.

Flipping heck. Can I just sell them back what they sell me and make a profit?

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yes you can make a profit over time

jimofwales

poppysarah wrote: »

Flipping heck. Can I just sell them back what they sell me and make a profit?

This is interesting, if you tamper with the export meter you could export everything you generate at 36p, and buy what you use at 10p.

Fire_Fox

jimofwales wrote: »

This is interesting, if you tamper with the export meter you could export everything you generate at 36p, and buy what you use at 10p.

There are more lucrative ways to commit fraud. :rotfl:

jimofwales

Fire_Fox wrote: »

There are more lucrative ways to commit fraud. :rotfl:

3,000kwh per year would generate around £1200/yr at the proposed feed-in tariff rates.

izzzzythedog

Milliewilly wrote: »

No not ignorance - reality - imagine those on a beautiful period property. If you think those tiles look attractive then fair enough - I personally dont, plus they have to go facing SW to get the sun not necessarily where you would want them to go aesthetically.

I made no mention of maintenance or space?

Increases the worth - thats debateable according to the topic of this post. Reduces bills down - agree but how many years is it going to take to recoup the installation before you see a return? Your link states an average cost for installation of £8K to 12K assuming you are eligible for a government grant of £8K! So, it will take you about 10 - 15 years at least to break even by which time there will be better more efficient alternatives and you cannot say you will even be living there!

So no can't see it catching on at all at those prices. Certainly wouldn't temt me to buy.

sorry still dont agree

firstly the look of it , a period property could mean anything , id agree a solar array poking out of thatch isnt appropriate but the majority of the housing stock in the uk could easly accept solar panels without it being noticed , my house isnt south facing , far from it , i built a 30 foot shed which is more than handly and stuck 5 on there , i could have gone for a solar array that is fixed on a pole in the garden

http://www.solar4power.com/images/solar-array.jpg

or could have simply created 6 foot fence panels with an intergrated solar panel in each , theres a million and 1 ways to mount them and majority of people could if they could find it within themselves to buy them

you may have made no mention of maintence or space , so what ? its appropriate to the debate as a whole

as for increasing a propertys worth is a given that any expensive undertaking on a property gives it extra worth be it a garage , a conny or an extension , the ability to heat and light a house and even make a few quid is ....... why am i even typing this ? someone must be a brand new type of stupid not to appriciate this is massively desirable and a serious asset to the property

the cost implications are hard to envisage , a new build with a cert recieves a premium as has been listed and yes it will follow interest rates for ever to create a small income , the future power requirements and abilities to create are an unknown but that means nothing , the here and now is what matters , the initial cost is justified twice over by the lack of a bill , a future source of eco power just isnt on the horizen , there will be no cold fuson reactors avaliable as B+Q within the next 12 years as there is simply no-one out there with a fresh patent waiting to manufactor anything that is better than what we have now , no thermal dynamic machines no for the home gravity power plants , nothing , i dare say in time something may come crop up but we can only run with what we have and allow science to improve on it , as for the time frame who knows who will even be alive in 12 years ? no-one knows for sure where they will be and what they will be doing and it would be a waste of life to think `whatif ` with all that we do , much better to say sod it and opt out of the paying bills and take that chance IMO

izzzzythedog

silvercar wrote: »

I don't get why you can't take it with you. Its your property, you own it outright. Say on the F&F sheet that it isn't included in the sale and then dismantle it and take it with you.

If a property is worth X without it and it costs Y. It doesn't automatically follow that its now worth X+Y+income stream allowance. Only some buyers will be interested, the rest just want the best house at the best price or some combination of that. At a time when getting a mortgage means maxing the deposit, no-one wants a house overpriced by extras that reap the benefit 10 years down the line.

the cert is for the set up at a property , remove it and stick it onto another property then you need to reapplly and as far as i know you wont get the higher rate on extra elec created as you need the grant to be able to and as you already own the set up you will have already recieved a grant for it , double jepody , nothing to stop you selling it on though and using that money to create a new set up recertificated or offering it in situ to the next owners for the same value you would expect to recieve

if its already fitted a new owner recieves the benfefit instantly 2 ways , firstly a morgage is based on vrs stuff including your elec bill , going on the fact it cant be seen as an outgoing at the new home it increases your top line and increases the chance someone can afford a morgage in the first place , it also removes the cost of elec in the second instance , good stuff

John_Pierpoint

The grant has gone, unless you can find a local institution to subsidise you.
The installation has to be done by a registered competent person.
The kick back is 41.3 pence for each unit produced (from a domestic sized installation) plus 3p a unit if it goes back into the grid because on a sunny summer's day the panels on you 30 degree south facing roof are making up to 4KW and that is more than you are using.
This massive subsidy is paid by your fellow citizens without such panels, through their electricity bills.
The government is not involved it is virtually bankrupt and running a massive deficit, the debt is expected to grow to 35K per head of population.
Yes you may end up with a negative electricity bill.

At the moment, virtually no house buyers are bothering to read the EPC (energy performance certificate) so don't expect enhanced offers - probably the reverse ("What is that black plastic stuff on panels up there - looks like it might be trouble" )

Hopefully this will change over the next 5 years BUT just try going into an Estate Agent and after being asked "How many bedrooms" saying "have you got any houses with solar PV".