off sick and a grievance at work

MummyHol

no, not the same manager- its his boss that'll be doing the grievence and absence meeting with someone from HR

scoot1on1

MummyHol wrote: »

no, not the same manager- its his boss that'll be doing the grievence and absence meeting

All I can say is try and get in your head what you want to say...If you look at the ACAS site it may give you an understanding of what to expect from this meeting.

I wish you all the best and a speedy recovery, and if there is anything else you think I can help with just ask.
I am in the middle of the exact same situation and have had mediation meetings etc...I am now in my 4th month of this horrible situation

MummyHol

thanks scoot1on1 and all the best to you too- 4months seems like a hell of a long time

janb5

olly300 wrote: »

Just a tip. Instead of arguing with posters like iamana1ias who clearly have no understanding of mental health issues put them on ignore.

And concentrate on the posters who are giving you balanced advice even if you don't like the advice given.

Excellent advice. I have posted on here and been stung with people who have put in catty remarks about `lack of integrity` which was totally unnecessary imo. But where is the `ignore` button?

In my case I am off sick for 2 months with reactive depression relating to work related stress and agreed to attend an investigative meeting. Trying to find information to discover whether I have to attend meeting while off sick particularly as having great difficulty in finding a rep and am reluctant to take a friend

floss2

MummyHol wrote: »

Thanks Olly300

I did agree to go to the original absence meeting but not to discuss the grievence. They've now sent another letter pushing the date of the meeting because the manager who will attend wants to do the absense and grievence meeting at the same time. This letter sates that i can ask a colleague or someone from my union to attend, but i'm not part of a union. I do intend to take a colleague with me though.

Just out of curiosity, have your employers sent you a copy of the grievance procedure? If so, what does it state in there about notice of meetings, being off sick etc?

My employers have a policy of grievances NOT being heard by the person in question's manager - but by another manager within the same bigger department who does not have day-to-day contact with the aggrieved person....thus giving a fair hearing to all.

viktory

Leaving aside the issue of your absence as I have no knowledge of that, please be warned there is no prescribed form which the law requires grievance handling to meet. Basic practical guidance is provided in the form of the Acas Code of Practice on Discipline and Grievance. This sets out principles for handling disciplinary and grievance situations in the workplace. A failure to follow the Code does not, in itself, make a person or organisation liable to proceedings. However, employment tribunals will take the Code into account when considering relevant cases. Tribunals will also be able to adjust any awards made in relevant cases by up to 25 per cent for unreasonable failure by either party to comply with any provision of the Code.

As an example, my husband raised a grievance with his company. The company held one investigation meeting with my husband and did not interview any of the people he had cited as witnesses. Then they took 4 weeks to respond with an out and out tissue of lies. Our only recourse was to appeal (within 5 days). However, the person we had to appeal to is in fact that father of the person my husband has lodged the grievance against!

ACAS have confirmed that they are perfectly within their rights to do this and the only course of action to us is for my husband to leave his job and seek redress at an employment tribunal. This obviously means he will be unemployed so it not a good solution - plus tribunal cases are taking over a year to be dealt with. Finally, there is no right to bring a harassment and bullying case to a tribunal. It has to be something else like discrimination.

Everyone assumes that grievances are the solutions to their problems but we have found that this is not the case at all.

flutterrby

I am also off on stress and have been advised by a colleague that I should stay at home while off sick. The problem is, I am a single mother and need to be able to get shopping done. Am I allowed to be out while on sick?

flutterrby

I am also off on stress and have been advised by a colleague that I should stay at home while off sick. The problem is, I am a single mother and need to be able to get shopping done. Am I allowed to be out while on sick?

flutterrby

janb5 wrote: »

Excellent advice. I have posted on here and been stung with people who have put in catty remarks about `lack of integrity` which was totally unnecessary imo. But where is the `ignore` button?

In my case I am off sick for 2 months with reactive depression relating to work related stress and agreed to attend an investigative meeting. Trying to find information to discover whether I have to attend meeting while off sick particularly as having great difficulty in finding a rep and am reluctant to take a friend

Hi, I think I would find it difficult also to go for a meeting while still recovering from stress. I would want someone with me to just support me but would be afraid in case somehow it backfired and they said something that would aggravate the situation. I would not want to take a friend for that reason, I would insist on it being a union member or my doctor..

Tigsteroonie

flutterrby wrote: »

I am also off on stress and have been advised by a colleague that I should stay at home while off sick. The problem is, I am a single mother and need to be able to get shopping done. Am I allowed to be out while on sick?

Slightly different I know - my "stress" was subsequently identified as General Anxiety Disorder - but my GP told me that going out and doing things outside the house would probably help me recover more quickly, as (1) my mind would be taken off the situation causing me stress, and (2) I wouldn't be worrying about other things like getting somebody else to do the shopping.

So long as nobody sees you doing something that's physically impossible due to the nature of your sick leave (such as ice-skating when you have a supposed broken leg), I don't see as there is a problem. Life has to go on.