Car scrappage - is it worth it?

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flea72 wrote: »

If you want a cheap car, then your only option is to look at kia, hyundai, etc. - however, i tend to find the repair/servicing costs for these cars, tends to kill off any saving you make, if you plan to keep the car long term

F

Not sure how you come to that conclusion, the Hyundai's have a 5 year warranty, and the Kia's have 7 year warranties, so repair costs should be minimal.

Pincher

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I have a small car, but if I needed a big car, I just rent it. The car club cars are available 24 hours a day, unlike traditional car rental firms, with limited pick-up and drop off times. It's also a good way of getting to drive a BMW once in a while. No excessive road tax, no outrageous insurance, but I get to indulge in a nicer car when the need arises.

Lulu58

flea72's point is interesting re manufacturer's 'upscaling' the smallest cars and introducing one beneath it. I have looked at all the 'small' cars like the Clio, Fiesta, Corsa etc. and they are all more like small versions of the previous mid size cars like the Focus, Astra etc; with price tags to match. Many of the new small cars aren't hugely attractive.

My car is costing a lot in terms of repairs etc because although it has very low mileage, the parts are all 10 years old. It's a difficult one.

gilbert_and_sullivan

Lulu i answered you query about gearboxes on the other thread last night.

The car you are thinking of with the gearbox you are considering is not one i'd want for 9 years.

If you really want to keep a car for 9 years, which is most unusual in someone i assume is so young...no offence meant there by the way, then you won't do much better than taking advantage of Kia's 7 year warranty....you could even get an approved used Ceed and Kia will top the warranty back up to a full 7 years, proper auto's in Kia's too.

Lots of people are stuck in badge snob (or envy) mode about these Korean cars, i tend to think if they are prepared to warrant the thing for 7 years they must have some faith in their own product.

flea72

Inactive wrote: »

Not sure how you come to that conclusion, the Hyundai's have a 5 year warranty, and the Kia's have 7 year warranties, so repair costs should be minimal.

warranties only cover faults in manufacturing

the main expense with Kias and Hyundais, are the day to day wear and tear items. so expect to pay hideous amounts on things like new exhaust systems

F

Lulu58

Thanks to Gilbert & Sullivan (anyone who thinks I'm "so young" can post me any time :beer: ) and flea72 for their posts.
I know that warranties only cover manufacturing faults, but why should Kia and/or Hyundai day to day servicing, repairs etc cost any more than any other manufacturer? I think they are all a bit expensive these days, particularly with the advent of things like sealed units etc. I needed new brakes a while back on my Clio and they are sold in packs of 4 or some other such nonsense. Gone are the days of buying a small part for a few pence?!

Pincher's comments are interesting. I think I will investigate car clubs.

flea72

Lulu58 wrote: »

Thanks to Gilbert & Sullivan (anyone who thinks I'm "so young" can post me any time :beer: ) and flea72 for their posts.
I know that warranties only cover manufacturing faults, but why should Kia and/or Hyundai day to day servicing, repairs etc cost any more than any other manufacturer? I think they are all a bit expensive these days, particularly with the advent of things like sealed units etc. I needed new brakes a while back on my Clio and they are sold in packs of 4 or some other such nonsense. Gone are the days of buying a small part for a few pence?!

Pincher's comments are interesting. I think I will investigate car clubs.

the parts costs more, because there arent as many copy ones being made, and nor are they made in the quantities of parts for say fords, so production costs are higher. why not get quotes for known repairs you would have to make in the first 10yrs, ie replacing a whole exhaust system, new brakes, etc

these companies offer long term warranties to make their cars look more appealing. i suppose you could view it along the same lines as DFS whereby they offer 4 years interest free credit. its because they know after 4yrs the sofa will be on its last legs, and you will be sucked back into having to replace it

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gilbert_and_sullivan

flea72 wrote: »

the parts costs more, because there arent as many copy ones being made, and nor are they made in the quantities of parts for say fords, so production costs are higher. why not get quotes for known repairs you would have to make in the first 10yrs, ie replacing a whole exhaust system, new brakes, etc

these companies offer long term warranties to make their cars look more appealing. i suppose you could view it along the same lines as DFS whereby they offer 4 years interest free credit. its because they know after 4yrs the sofa will be on its last legs, and you will be sucked back into having to replace it

F

And then pop down to eurobox service desk (any other maker) and get quotes for the above and engine, gearbox, ecu's, wiper mechanism, starter motor, alternator, water pump, power steering pump etc...all items are possible to fail between years 3 and 7,

note some items on new Ceed warranty are not 7 years to be fair, paintwork is only 5 years, Audio equipment is 3 years/60K, batteries/accessories 2 years, the rest is covered apart from wear and tear such as brake and clutch linings, oh and the warranty 'only' lasts up to 100K miles.

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flea72 wrote: »

these companies offer long term warranties to make their cars look more appealing. i suppose you could view it along the same lines as DFS whereby they offer 4 years interest free credit. its because they know after 4yrs the sofa will be on its last legs, and you will be sucked back into having to replace it

F

I disagree, they offer longer warranties because they have faith in their products, comparing Kia with DFS is really clutching at straws, many DFS Suites don't even last a year.

Why would somebody that has had a DFS Suite fail on them, go back and buy another one? .. That is illogical.

bloaty

Found this thread very helpful as I have been considering this for a while and wondering whether to go for new with scrappage or second hand!

Hate buying replacement cars and don't really know what car to go for. Looking for reliability and low running costs.

Thanks