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docking wages

Quick question

my friend started a new job a couple of weeks ago and at the begining of this week her boss (works in a hairdressers) said she was going out tonight and was closing 2 hours early so she could get ready. She has however docked my friends wages 2 hours because of this!!!
seems really unfair to me, is she allowed to just do this whenever she feels like it?
friend hasn't got a contract of employment but the job did state x amount of hours per week when she took the job
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  • paulofessex
    paulofessex Posts: 1,728 Forumite
    Although l don't know if there is a right or wrong answer to this, l feel thats it's a case of your friend having to accept it and just hope it don't happen to often. If it does, perhaps the friend can mention to the manager that she may need to seek employment elsewhere as she cannot afford to lose money as she is living on a budget.
  • Amistoso_2
    Amistoso_2 Posts: 1,216 Forumite
    Although l don't know if there is a right or wrong answer to this, l feel thats it's a case of your friend having to accept it and just hope it don't happen to often. If it does, perhaps the friend can mention to the manager that she may need to seek employment elsewhere as she cannot afford to lose money as she is living on a budget.


    thanx for the reply and I see what your saying, my friends just a bit concerned as the boss is shutting for a week in May and although she will have acrued enough holiday to cover those days thinks her boss will just not pay her again and continue to do so whenever she feels like it!
    just seems wrong
  • Mudd14
    Mudd14 Posts: 856 Forumite
    I would ask for a copy of the contract.

    If there is a set amount of hours the employer must pay this regadless. Whilst I agree it is not your friends fault if the employer has fulfilled her part of the contract in giving her the correct hours in one week there is nothing you can do.

    If however she is two hours down on her contracted hours she is entitled to pay for this.
  • Amistoso_2
    Amistoso_2 Posts: 1,216 Forumite
    Mudd14 wrote: »
    I would ask for a copy of the contract.

    If there is a set amount of hours the employer must pay this regadless. Whilst I agree it is not your friends fault if the employer has fulfilled her part of the contract in giving her the correct hours in one week there is nothing you can do.

    If however she is two hours down on her contracted hours she is entitled to pay for this.


    no contract has ever been provided but is meant to have 16 hours per week (as per jobcentreplus job advert) she was only paid 14 hours so is a bit miffed
  • Mudd14
    Mudd14 Posts: 856 Forumite
    How long has your friend been working there?
  • Amistoso_2
    Amistoso_2 Posts: 1,216 Forumite
    only 8 weeks...
  • patman99
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    By law she should have been given a contract within 2 weeks of starting. As she hasn't, a statutory contract as defined by govt. legislation now exists.
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  • Savvy_Sue
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    patman99 wrote: »
    By law she should have been given a contract within 2 weeks of starting. As she hasn't, a statutory contract as defined by govt. legislation now exists.
    I think you'll find it's 8 weeks or 2 months, but you're right about the rest.

    Would be worth your friend looking at the ACAS website for advice.
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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    Sauce for gees is sauce for ganders.

    She should look for another job, and when she finds it, she should give her 1 weeks notice or however long, but work zero hours for the rest of the notice, to have an immediate start.
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  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    Whether your friend has yet been provided with a written statement of terms and conditions (which she is entitled to within 2 months - not the 2 weeks quoted) is, in terms of whether a legal contract exists, irrelevant. She does have a contract. If the 16 hours were quoted in the job advert and were subsequently confirmed verbally then she is entitled to payment for them. Enforcing that and actually getting the payment is another thing. I would recommend that she speaks to her boss and, as paulofessex suggests, tell her that she's living on a budget and needs the money. It sounds as though she will need to clarify the position with regard to the break in May too.

    Either that or she can say nothing, be worse off and just getted cheesed off about it.
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