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House prices could fall for several years

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  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    Just a quick question :
    If house prices were to fall by say for example 25%
    How would that effect the banks
    So I suppose it is 2 questions .
    If they fell fast ...How would that affect banks ?
    If they fell slow .. How would that effect banks ?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    Haha, which mod?

    Jason.:D

    I rather suspect one or two more have as well, but don't want to admit it.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    globalds wrote: »
    Just a quick question :
    If house prices were to fall by say for example 25%
    How would that effect the banks
    So I suppose it is 2 questions .
    If they fell fast ...How would that affect banks ?
    If they fell slow .. How would that effect banks ?

    They did fall by almost 25%, and we saw exactly what happened to the banks.

    Another 25% fall would be utterly destructive to the banks and the wider economy.

    Which is why, as we have seen, governments will do whatever is required to avoid such a scenario.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Emy1501
    Emy1501 Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    They did fall by almost 25%, and we saw exactly what happened to the banks.

    Another 25% fall would be utterly destructive to the banks and the wider economy.

    Which is why, as we have seen, governments will do whatever is required to avoid such a scenario.

    The problems with RBS and HBOS had nothing to do with prices falling here by 25%
  • Emy1501
    Emy1501 Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    Nobody knows

    1) What effect ending the stamp duty holiday will have on the market
    2) Whether the cash rich, bank of Mum and Dad will be about to support the FTB market for the year ahead
    3) Where the economy will go over the next year.
    4) where interest rates will be in the next 6 months
    5) who will win the election and what effect this will have on the market.

    I'm sure theres more. There are too many ifs, buts and maybes to really predict what going to happen this year and thats why many have gone for the safe bet of saying it will be flat.
  • ukcarper
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    Emy1501 wrote: »
    Nobody knows


    2) Whether the cash rich, bank of Mum and Dad will be about to support the FTB market for the year ahead

    Is it a fact that more parents are helping their children with deposits now?
  • phil_b_2
    phil_b_2 Posts: 995 Forumite
    House prices will be flat or thereabouts for a long while now, until everything else catches up. They wont crash, the powers that be will see to that. There are far too many powerful and wealthy people about to let the average joe house-buyer wannabe get their way.
  • Emy1501
    Emy1501 Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    ukcarper wrote: »
    Is it a fact that more parents are helping their children with deposits now?

    The CML have said that the First time buyers market is pretty much exclusive to the Rich, those with the bank for Mum and dad for help, STR's and those who have divorced.

    The days where genuine FTB's used their own money to buy their first home is pretty much over now mainly due to few being able to find the deposit to get on the market. Before 125%, 100%, 95% mortgaes were available etc.
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    phil_b wrote: »
    House prices will be flat or thereabouts for a long while now, until everything else catches up. They wont crash, the powers that be will see to that. There are far too many powerful and wealthy people about to let the average joe house-buyer wannabe get their way.

    Is that so?

    So in previous crashes, where did all the powerful and wealthy people go?

    It's not much of an argument, is it Phil.
  • Falling prices are disastrous for the banks. All those lovely secured loans that won't be errrm.... secured. People would choose to be repossessed rather than being stuck paying most of their wages for something that is losing value faster than they can earn it.

    On the whole, I'd settle for prices remaining constant and inflation curing teh affordability problem. However, this is unlikely - prices are more likley to fluctuate up and down depending on the season/feel good factor but the trend is likley to be downwards.

    Here's hoping anyway.

    GG
    There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't.
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