Economy 10

Gurn_2

Must be an area thing then! as i work for scottish and southern in metering, and are a national MOP! and R1 is Day/normal and R2 is off peak!
Has been for the last 23 yrs ive worked in metering!

dunloadin

I'm on Gurn's side on this one, it tends to be the old 'spinny wheel' meters that have them the wrong way round...people read from top to bottom, left right, so tend to think R1 is the low on these meters.

If you have a digital meter it is more obvious which way round they are, as the read tends to default to whichever one is on at the time. ALL digital meters I've seen fitted have R1 as Normal and R2 as Low.

This has caused problems with billing, and tends to be picked up after the old meter has been changed....perhaps caused by meter readers with electrical input devices reading the top read as R1 by mistake (quite happy to be corrected on the meter reader being the blame).

Not sure how widespread a problem this could be.

mattcanary

I think some parts of the country have R1 as normal and R2 as low. I know where I live (Norfolk) R2 is normal and R1 is low but I have heard other parts of the country (in fact, most parts of the country) are the other way round

dunloadin

mattcanary wrote: »

I think some parts of the country have R1 as normal and R2 as low. I know where I live (Norfolk) R2 is normal and R1 is low but I have heard other parts of the country (in fact, most parts of the country) are the other way round

If thats the case then suppliers need to work to a common standard; as they operate nationally then they should all be obtaining meter reads using the same method.

With many people swapping suppliers, and many not taking reads or relying on what has been read in the past, I wonder how many people are getting their meters misread due to a schoolboy error like this.

Pete*G_4

mattcanary wrote: »

I think some parts of the country have R1 as normal and R2 as low. I know where I live (Norfolk) R2 is normal and R1 is low but I have heard other parts of the country (in fact, most parts of the country) are the other way round

:eek: someone else from Norfolk!! Was hoping I was the only one! :rotfl:

Katie-Kat-Kins

OP I have an E10 meter and have five rates, yours sound more like E7, but these things vary wildly from area to area. The electric companies do not always know what they are talking about. I suspect that maybe your electric company things you are on E10 and is billing you for E10 but your meter will only support E7, I had the opposite problem, an E10 meter and the supplier was firmly convinced I was on E7....

Be_Happy

In my case it's even more complicated. New digital meter fitted a few months ago correctly shows R1 as normal and R2 as night, but when I go onto Scottish Power's website to enter my monthly readings the form says R1 = night and R2 = Day. I always have to enter my readings against the wording of 'day' and 'night' and not the reading numbers. Bills are always correct, but I'm sure problems are going to crop up when a meter reader calls (hasn't been one so far)

Only consolation is that I have 6 storage heaters so the meter readings are obvious ie I am using around 50 units overnight and 10 during the day at present.

rachie767

I'm on E10 with Eon and my offpeak times are the same. They will change by an hour when the clocks do though so watch out for that. There are different offpeak times as well depending on where you live and who the electricity provider is.

We've got wet central heating and all our electricity usage is tied into the meter, not just the heating and water.

zag2me

Thanks for all the replies

I phoned up the electricity company (EDF) and they basically haven't got a clue about Economy 10 meters or billing. I got about 5 different answers to 5 phone calls that I made to them and eventually gave up and started an excel spreadsheet to check it myself.

Anyway it turns out 1) is offpeak and 2) is peak.

And to top it all off the times are exactly the opposite of what EDF had told me on the phone!!

So I turned all my heating and water supply switches from "OFF PEAK" to "ON PEAK" in my apartment and my peak usage has halved. Strange but true!

I was paying £160 pm before and now its around £60 pm so well happy with the result.

Its scary that this could have cost me tens of thousands of pounds over the future years and I would have been none the wiser.

lady_wolfs_head

We had economy 7 and got rid of it because the unit price on the peak is generally more than on the normal tariff. And unless you put on the dishwasher/tumble etc off peak it is not worth it