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Jury Duty

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  • System
    System Posts: 178,375 Community Admin
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    eglons wrote: »
    Thanks, I've tried googling it but the question is too specific. You can get up to £65/day loss of earnings, I really just need to find out whether earnings means "salary" or whether dividend income from my own company counts. I'll call them today and find out.

    Dividend is not salary. If it was you would be paying standard rates of income tax on it.
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  • eglons
    eglons Posts: 56 Forumite
    !!!!!! wrote: »
    Dividend is not salary. If it was you would be paying standard rates of income tax on it.

    ???? You do pay standard rates of tax on it (although it's corporation tax rather than income tax).

    I think I'm best giving up here, I was looking for someone who had done this rather than opinion and unpicking of the way a small limited company operates!
  • System
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    When I said 'you' I meant personally not as a company.
    Or more to the point, does it appear on your P60?
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  • eglons
    eglons Posts: 56 Forumite
    !!!!!! wrote: »
    When I said 'you' I meant personally not as a company.
    Or more to the point, does it appear on your P60?

    I fail to see the relevance. I will lose income as a result of jury service, why is how that income arrives relevant. As a one person company I am the company so "you" doesn't really matter.

    Anyway thanks for your help but can we leave it as it's helping no-one.
  • Bobl
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    edited 19 April 2010 at 10:27AM
    Deleted as I accidentally reposted, but with a link.
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  • Bobl
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    You can claim for loss of income, but only up to the maximum detailed here:

    http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/jury_service/expenses.htm

    Financial loss

    An allowance may be claimed for an amount of loss or additional expense (other than travelling or subsistence) which you have incurred, subject to the maximum set out in the allowances sheet (PDF) . This is calculated on a daily basis, according to the period of time over which the earnings or benefits under the National Insurance Acts are lost or additional expense incurred.

    Salaried jurors

    Claims for loss of earnings must be supported by a certificate, which has been fully completed, signed and officially stamped by your employer. In the absence of an official stamp, a supporting letter on your employer’s headed notepaper should be requested. You will receive the loss of earning certificate (PDF) with your jury summons.

    Frequently asked questions for employers (PDF)

    Self employed jurors

    If you are self-employed some evidence of loss of earnings or additional expenses incurred must be obtained, e.g. a letter from an accountant stating average weekly income; a copy of a previous tax return; an authenticated letter from someone who would have offered work, quoting the remuneration.

    Without a supported certificate, or other satisfactory evidence, payment other than for travel and subsistence will not be made.

    My wife is self employed and has recently had her jury service put back to January, which is a quieter month for her (she makes Wedding Cakes).
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  • eglons
    eglons Posts: 56 Forumite
    Bobl wrote: »
    You can claim for loss of income, but only up to the maximum detailed here:

    http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/jury_service/expenses.htm

    Financial loss

    An allowance may be claimed for an amount of loss or additional expense (other than travelling or subsistence) which you have incurred, subject to the maximum set out in the allowances sheet (PDF) . This is calculated on a daily basis, according to the period of time over which the earnings or benefits under the National Insurance Acts are lost or additional expense incurred.

    Salaried jurors

    Claims for loss of earnings must be supported by a certificate, which has been fully completed, signed and officially stamped by your employer. In the absence of an official stamp, a supporting letter on your employer’s headed notepaper should be requested. You will receive the loss of earning certificate (PDF) with your jury summons.

    Frequently asked questions for employers (PDF)

    Self employed jurors

    If you are self-employed some evidence of loss of earnings or additional expenses incurred must be obtained, e.g. a letter from an accountant stating average weekly income; a copy of a previous tax return; an authenticated letter from someone who would have offered work, quoting the remuneration.

    Without a supported certificate, or other satisfactory evidence, payment other than for travel and subsistence will not be made.

    My wife is self employed and has recently had her jury service put back to January, which is a quieter month for her (she makes Wedding Cakes).

    Thanks for the reply. I've read exactly the same thing, which is what prompted me to check. My income is salary + dividend so not strictly salary but it is income. I've rang the jury service and been told it's allowable but they aren't sure what the court would require in terms of evidence. I've emailed them to get a written answer. It can't be an unusual situation
  • pimento
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    I would love to do jury service. Most people I know who are called try to get out of it, but I've never been asked and would absolutely love to do it.

    It's a shame you can't volunteer.
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
  • heretolearn_2
    heretolearn_2 Posts: 3,565 Forumite
    Compensation is based on loss of earnings up to a max of £63.12 a day. Sorry yes, that's what I meant by a fixed amount but didn't explain it clearly, obviously if you don't earn that much, you don't get that much.

    On deferral - business reasons are accepted. I would think that as a one-man business, you would have to completely close down your business while you were on jury service (the guidance specifically mentions small businesses as being likely to suffer hardship). Wouldn't this make you lose business, new customers, risk losing existing customers through bad service etc etc

    - quote from the hmcourts service:
    "Jurors may be excused for valid business reasons. Applications of this type should, however, be looked at closely and granted only if there would be unusual hardship. A small business is an example of a case where such hardship might be suffered, although each case must be considered on its individual merits."


    Cash not ash from January 2nd 2011: £2565.:j

    OU student: A103 , A215 , A316 all done. Currently A230 all leading to an English Literature degree.

    Any advice given is as an individual, not as a representative of my firm.
  • eglons
    eglons Posts: 56 Forumite
    pimento wrote: »
    I would love to do jury service. Most people I know who are called try to get out of it, but I've never been asked and would absolutely love to do it.

    It's a shame you can't volunteer.

    I've done it once before 4 years ago and got a child abuse case... no fun I can tell but you do feel like it's a worthwhile duty, just hope I don't lose 2 weeks work for no cash!
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