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  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    michaels wrote: »
    But does Hamish and his back story really ring true?

    If Hamish is really trying to influence the housing market let alone the election on a poxy forum (sorry mse!) where no more than a few hundred people a week read his outpourings, then I think he is wasting his time, frankly.

    Unless his activity is duplicated under the same/different names on many, many other forums, I can't see it having any measureable impact.

    Believe me, if I thought my posting on here could change the direction of house prices (not so bothered about the election), then I'd do it a lot more than I do currently. :p

    I think Hamish is just one of many messengers - he's not the message, and doesn't create it either.
  • silvercar
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    If forums are mostly negative, I would have thought that is because people with an axe to grind, grind it. I doubt that the overall forums' opinions reflect the real world where, for the people with no axes to grind, this is a non issue.

    Sure if you are looking to buy a home and they are more than you can afford it becomes an issue. If you are troubled by negative equity and want to sell its an issue. Forum jabber away. But for the rest of the population, they will be more interested in the effect of the economy in general or specifically the effect of interest rates on their mortgage. Unless you want to buy or sell iminently, house prices are a boring topic.
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  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Aah, but you surely give the lie to your own argument, silvercar?

    After all, you're still posting gamely on here, and AFAIK, fall into neither category. :)
  • Mr.Brown_4
    Mr.Brown_4 Posts: 1,109 Forumite
    I think it's interesting that since I started posting house prices have fallen and Macdonald burger sales have risen.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Mr.Brown wrote: »
    I think it's interesting that since I started posting house prices have fallen and Macdonald burger sales have risen.

    I think it's interesting that since I started posting house prices have risen and Beer sales have fallen.

    There's more than one pub landlord in Aberdeen cursing the day MSE was invented....:rotfl:
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    michaels wrote: »
    Hamish and the butterfly effect

    I flap my gums, and 6 months later a buyer in Rotherham pays an extra £3K for a house.

    Nice.:D
    I feel a bit bad about posting this as I know Mr H already has trouble getting his head through the door but I was wondering if he may end up writing his memoir about how a party hack turned an election through the power of online communities.

    :rotfl:
    Could one person writing on a few forums change perceptions enough to revive the housing market and then swing the entire political pendulum? I postulate that prior to Hamish most forums were almost universally negative and ths would self reinforce sentiment and in turn ripple out to the real world. Hamish arrives and starts posting upbeat but 'sensible' (key bit here - no point being OTT or unsubstantiated as he needs to be seen to engage in discussion not just get ignored). Gradually he turns sentiment on house prices just by making it appear that there are 2 viewpoints rather than just negativity so there becomes a middle vaguely optimistic position for others to hold. And having achieved this for house prices he is ideally placed to start linking political arguments to his outlook along the lines of 'Like what you are seeing on housing, the Tories might wreck it whereas Labour will try and sustain it'.

    So if you are a hack and this has been a deliberately orchestrated campaign I take my hat of to you 'Mr McTavish' from 'Aberdeen'.

    It's an interesting hypothesis, but I think you overlook the obvious.

    HPC and here, the only two forums I've posted on re house prices, are absolutely meaningless in terms of impacting the wider housing market.

    A couple of hundred active posters on hpc, and a couple of dozen here, can have absolutely no influence on pricing when there are currently 90,000 or so houses being sold every month.

    Much as I would enjoy basking in the glory of singlehandedly being responsible for the turnaround in the housing market, the fact is that I just like to argue. And arguing about house prices or the economy is far less tedious, and much easier to research, than arguing about other equally contentious topics like global warming or religion.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • wageslave
    wageslave Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    I think it's interesting that since I started posting house prices have risen and Beer sales have fallen.

    There's more than one pub landlord in Aberdeen cursing the day MSE was invented....:rotfl:

    I doubt that it is just in Aberdeen.

    MSE seems to keep a lot of men off the streets. Of course they aren't actually paying any more attention to their wives and families.

    It is however keeping them away from the remote control so it is all good;)
    Retail is the only therapy that works
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    To be fair, wageslave, most of us on this thread are female... even if we are debating the truly important things in life like good music, chocolate and boots, rather than the tedious things like house prices. ;)
  • SingleSue
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    Well I think everyone on this part of the forum are very nice.......and so do my boys.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • Heyman_2
    Heyman_2 Posts: 1,819 Forumite
    It's like a forum within a forum that's immune from being moved t'Arms with all the rest of the....actually I'll stop there because it's supposed to be a nice people thread. :eek::p
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