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Nice people thread 2 - now even nicer
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Male, definitely, unashamedly male.
I could never understand why the rest couldn't see that
I always thought that too. Though more to do with the ability to spend £0 on clothes in a year.Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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vivatifosi wrote: »Apologies if you've mentioned it before ws, but what's your first fave?
A Tale of Two Cities, simply for the opening line which I think sums up the human conditionRetail is the only therapy that works0 -
OK, here goes...
I love the work of Patrick Hughes, so as well as some of the books he has written (Left to write, Upon the pun) I'd like to get hold of this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Patrick-Hughes-Perverspective-John-Slyce/dp/1873362862/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283114540&sr=1-2
The diary of jack the ripper (though most researchers feel it is a forgery - though the type of forgery is debated) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Diary-Jack-Ripper-Shirley-Harrison/dp/1844549178/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283114652&sr=1-1
By ear & eyes (the title is from how Joseph Barnett identified the remains of Mary Jane Kelly, the last of the "canonical" victims. This book is a large re-investigation into each of the crimes. It asserts that MJK was not a ripper victim) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ear-Eyes-Whitechapel-Murders-Ripper/dp/0955024005/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283114738&sr=1-1
Stan Russo's book compiling suspects http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-Ripper-Suspects-Investigators-Theorists/dp/0786417757/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283114859&sr=1-2
Bad science by Ben Goldacre (recommended by a friend with whom I've exchanged numerous books & recommendations) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bad-Science-Ben-Goldacre/dp/000728487X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283114897&sr=1-1
Bertrand Russells tome on western philosophy http://www.amazon.co.uk/History-Western-Philosophy-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415325056/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283114964&sr=1-1
William Beadle's investigation into William Bury as JTR http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-Ripper-Unmasked-William-Beadle/dp/1844546888/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115011&sr=1-1
(Anyone noticing a bit of a trend...)
Two books on late victorian era london (for the bigger picture) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Uncovering-Rippers-London-Richard-Jones/dp/1845376110/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115071&sr=1-4 and http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grim-Almanac-Rippers-London-1870-1/dp/0750948590/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115071&sr=1-2
A couple of books which are autobiographies from people who were at the battle of waterloo http://www.amazon.co.uk/Waterloo-Hero-Adventures-Friedrich-Lindau/dp/1848325398/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115174&sr=1-1 and http://www.amazon.co.uk/Autobiography-Sergeant-Lawrence-Peninsular-Campaigns/dp/1847340687/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115174&sr=1-4
The biography of James Berry, Victorian hangman http://www.amazon.co.uk/Executioner-Chronicles-James-Victorian-Hangman/dp/0750934085/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115255&sr=1-6
Flat earth news, & Whoops! Why everyone owes everyone (as recommended by the impeccable Viva!)
A critical appraisal of Twin Peaks http://www.amazon.co.uk/Full-Secrets-Approaches-Contemporary-Television/dp/0814325068/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115360&sr=1-1
A re-assessment of the assasination of JFK by Victor Bugliosi http://www.amazon.co.uk/Reclaiming-History-Assassination-John-Kennedy/dp/0393045250/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115409&sr=1-1
Derren Brown's newie http://www.amazon.co.uk/Confessions-Conjuror-Derren-Brown/dp/1905026579/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115513&sr=1-2
A Jack the ripper A-Z http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Jack-Ripper--Z/dp/1844547973/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115596&sr=1-1
The story of newgate prison http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gaol-Newgate-Londons-Notorious-Prison/dp/0719561337/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115668&sr=1-1
The fox and the flies - a bit of a mad attept to spuriously link a known con man to JTR http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fox-Flies-Joseph-Racketeer-Psychopath/dp/0224079298/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115704&sr=1-1
I should add, this is only an overview, & about half of my "to collect" list. I also have around 100 books sat on shelves at home that I am still ploughing through...It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
Male, definitely, unashamedly male.
I could never understand why the rest couldn't see that
Assumptions wageslave!
vivatifosi wrote: »I always thought that too. Though more to do with the ability to spend £0 on clothes in a year.
My challenge is actually 5 years with a no spend on clothes (with allowances for work clothes, undergarments and shoes). In a month and a wekk, I'll have completed 2 years!It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
Male or a gay woman.
I quite fancy the Newgate thing.
As for the rest........Retail is the only therapy that works0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »OK, here goes...
The diary of jack the ripper (though most researchers feel it is a forgery - though the type of forgery is debated) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Diary-Jack-Ripper-Shirley-Harrison/dp/1844549178/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283114652&sr=1-1
Bad science by Ben Goldacre (recommended by a friend with whom I've exchanged numerous books & recommendations) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bad-Science-Ben-Goldacre/dp/000728487X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283114897&sr=1-1
Well you can't be that strange, they are both on my extended "to do" list. Ben Goldacre more so than the diary, which has been on my to read list for about 20 years
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ETA: Jack the Ripper is still the source of the greatest true crime fascination, though the new books about Fritzl are also popular.lemonjelly wrote: »The biography of James Berry, Victorian hangman http://www.amazon.co.uk/Executioner-Chronicles-James-Victorian-Hangman/dp/0750934085/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115255&sr=1-6
Don't know about the above book, but on a similar theme, I've heard good things about this one from several readers:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Executioner-Pierrepoint-Albert/dp/0340717017/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283116764&sr=8-15
The most popular true crime book of the last couple of years is probably this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Suspicions-Mr-Whicher-Murder-House/dp/0747596484/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283117081&sr=1-1
Most people giving it bad reviews think it is a novel, which it isn't.
lemonjelly wrote: »Flat earth news, & Whoops! Why everyone owes everyone (as recommended by the impeccable Viva!)
They are excellent. Thank you for calling me impeccable. I will try not to fail with future book recommendations
.lemonjelly wrote: »OK, here goes...
A re-assessment of the assasination of JFK by Victor Bugliosi http://www.amazon.co.uk/Reclaiming-History-Assassination-John-Kennedy/dp/0393045250/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283115409&sr=1-1
This is one I'll have to look up now. I'm fascinated by all things JFK.Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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Pierrepoint's autobiography, as well as steven fieldings biography of the family (his father & uncle were also executioners before him) are also on my to get list.
Viva, the hardback Bugliosi book comes with a dvd I believe.It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
I read the Pierrepoint book and was sort of impressed how banal it was.
Got up, hung somebody........
I can't imagine a victorian executioner is any different
Your reading list is very "young" Lemon.
What age are you?Retail is the only therapy that works0 -
I have ben goldacre's bad science. A tad ranty ala michael moore stupid white men.
want to get superfreakonomics to read too but i'm spending my money on shoes and bags at the moment...0 -
want to get superfreakonomics to read too but i'm spending my money on shoes and bags at the moment...
Well you know what needs to be said and given my job it has to be me that says it.
That's what libraries are for misskool.Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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