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I'd just like to say what a great thread this has been and its nice to see so many of us with different opinions having a giggle at ourselves and each other, which discussing ''stuff''. Makes for much more sensible discussion IMO...free-er.0
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lemonjelly wrote: ».
I am reminded that a lot of people have a view that philosophy is done by old men, with long beards, sitting around in a library, in silence stroking their beards.
Actually I quite liked this fella in
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »Having done a university degree does not make one a philosopher.
Just as having done a psychology degree does not make one a psychologist!0 -
atheism is not a belief. it is the absence of a belief. all babies are atheist.
Babies don't have a belief in sweeties till they get to find out about them either. That doesn't mean sweeties don't exist. It does make the babies agnostic on the subject since they have no evidence either way,
Now if they were a-sweetie, they would believe they lived in a world without sweeties. As agnostics - without gnosis - they simply don't have knowledge or evidence for the existence or non-existence of sweeties.0 -
Originally Posted by ninky
atheism is not a belief. it is the absence of a belief. all babies are atheist.
This is the biggest error that Dawkins makes. Atheism is the belief that there is no God. It is a statement of something that is believed to be a fact, (just as saying there is no flying spaghetti monster is a statement of something that is believed to be a fact).
An absence of belief either way is agnostism. BTW, when I was child I never had the intellectual conviction that there was a God, nor that there was not a God. Now I don't really care either way.
Dawkins makes interesting arguments, but they are nearly all theological rather than philosophical. I'd have a better view of him if he stopped pretending otherwise.Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable. J. K. Galbraith0 -
Ah Sir Humphrey, you express it so well.
I don't know why I find atheists who try to borrow agnostic positions so annoying. I think it's their reluctance to enter the unglamorous grey area where you admit you simply have no satisfactory evidence either way and make peace with that. Fundamentalist certainty is so much more dashing.0 -
Hofstadter also wrote "Godel, Escher, Bach" - which I wholeheartedly recommend - probably my favourite pseudo-philosophy book. It's the "written in the style of Lewis Carroll" that I like....
It really is a work of absolute genius.
(And as another PPE-ist, I agree, a philosophy degree does not a philosopher make! Famously at Oxford, PPE is laughed at as "general studies", or the taught ability to b*lls**t. Probably why so many politicians studied it.)
I have this book, & really really need to get around to reading the blooming thing! It has sat on my shelf for way too long!
I also love M C Eschers work! Fascinates me.It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
lostinrates wrote: »I'd just like to say what a great thread this has been and its nice to see so many of us with different opinions having a giggle at ourselves and each other, which discussing ''stuff''. Makes for much more sensible discussion IMO...free-er.
Like I said earlier, I actually started it for a giggle. I never expected (either when I started the thread, or when I signed up to mse) to have a web based debate on dualism!:D
But I have thoroughly enjoyed posting, reading, reviewing, responding, and especially laughing!:)It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »I
I also love M C Eschers work! Fascinates me.
Its fascinating but...I don't like it. I think I'm possibly the only person in the world who doesn't though...:o0 -
lostinrates wrote: »Its fascinating but...I don't like it. I think I'm possibly the only person in the world who doesn't though...:o
Interesting - why?
To me, it highlights that there are different ways we can look at the world.
It is all about perspective, & given some of your comments, I'd have thought it were something you'd go with, rather than dislike? (shrug smiley)It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0
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