Poll: Labour Set To Beat Tories In Election

Nosht

No contest, Tories will walk it.

N.

Pete111

Nosht wrote: »

No contest, Tories will walk it.

N.

I sincerely hope you are correct.

I think they will get in but not by alot.

P

Spartacus_Mills

Part of me thinks the Tories do not want to win it outright. Cameron regularly used to run rings round Brown at PMQ's. Brown was a mumbling, incoherent, fool.

Where did it all go right for Brown, the Trooper Janes issue AFAIC. The Sun's attack on Brown for his letter to the Mother of trooper Janes (Brown mis-spelt the lads name) was small minded, petty and mean. It also engendered alot of sympathy for Brown. I felt the attack was outrageous. Brown is a Father who has lost a child and had some empathy for the Mother. His was a natural, human, expression of grief.

Since then the attacks on his personality have done nothing to harm him in the ratings. His ratings politically are still as awful as ever though.

Personally, although I am not voting for them, part of me wants Labour to win. A labour win in 2010 will be the equivalent of a Tory win in 1997 and the ensuing carnage in 2014/5 will finish them for a generation.

Labour needs to get to grips with what it is and what it stands for. In reality there is very little between the main parties which is why nonsense about inheritance tax cuts and death taxes is simply background noise. Both the main parties are going to cut and both will cut savagely.

Rochdale_Pioneers

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Personally, although I am not voting for them, part of me wants Labour to win. A labour win in 2010 will be the equivalent of a Tory win in 1997 and the ensuing carnage in 2014/5 will finish them for a generation.

What the right needs to be concerned about is AV. if Labour wins then we'll have a referendum on AV which i espect would be in favour. Where does that then leave the Tories? There are a number of parties on the left - Labour, LibDems, SNP, Plaid - and very few on the right. The Tories have always received a minority of the vote, and a new electoral system risks them being in perpetual opposition to the left.

Rupert_Bear

Please not another 5 years of creepy Mandy. Brown I can stomach but not Mandelson.

fedupfreda

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

Labour needs to get to grips with what it is and what it stands for. In reality there is very little between the main parties which is why nonsense about inheritance tax cuts and death taxes is simply background noise. Both the main parties are going to cut and both will cut savagely.

Very true. Which is why neither party really wants to end up winning the election - they both know they will pick up a poisoned chalice which could ruin them for an age. Its a lot easier to point the finger when you are in opposition!

Somethings telling me a hung parliament looks more likely by the day.

Sir_Humphrey

fedupfreda wrote: »

Very true. Which is why neither party really wants to end up winning the election - they both know they will pick up a poisoned chalice which could ruin them for an age. Its a lot easier to point the finger when you are in opposition!

Somethings telling me a hung parliament looks more likely by the day.

I agree that the next election is a poison chalice, but none but the most thoughtful political hack wants to lose an election. The calculation is that the damage to their own career outweighs the party advantage.

Tactical losing is not part of the political psyche.

luvpump

sjaypink wrote: »

I really don't think it will be that tight on the day, but, if it was (hung parliment) how would the tories recover? Would Cameron & crew be forced out?

I am seriously thinking of putting a big-ish bet on the tories being the biggest single party, I have always had my finger pretty much on the pulse & would simply be staggered if Labour have more MP's than anyone else ..
Just had a look best odds i can find on the tories being the biggest single party is 1/5 ! .. Even at that i think its worth a punt .

peterg1965

The polls got it badly wrong in 1992 and the Tories defied the odds to get a 21 seat majority. Polling is not an exact science by any means.

I think, when the chips are down on election day, there will be a great deal of hesitancy, even by the core Labour vote, to reinstall Brown for another term.

blueboy43

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

I agree that the next election is a poison chalice, but none but the most thoughtful political hack wants to lose an election. The calculation is that the damage to their own career outweighs the party advantage.

Tactical losing is not part of the political psyche.

It could have been described as a poisoned chalice in 1979 too. And despite Thatchers unpopularity in the first term it was as much Labours lurch to the left rather than the Falklands that won it (check out Labours share of the popular vote in 1983). All politicians would sell their grannies to be in power.

If be some miracle Labour won a small majority, the Tories would surely have to find yet another leader and possibly tear themselves apart, probably lurching to the Libertarian, anti-europe, cuts as a badge of honour, right.

How could Cameron possibly stay as Leader if he blows this chance.