Pixels and their consequences

1984ReturnsForReal_2

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Another thread lost to lipgloss & Fkin high heels.......

lemonjelly

carolt wrote: »

Definitely a bloke then.

Surely no girls have that few?

FWIW, I always assumed lj was a bloke. He sounds blokey, somehow.

:rotfl:
Not one to make a generalisation then carolt?:rotfl:

sjaypink wrote: »

NO! I was asking whether i needed to staLK YOU?! (oopps caps: drunk again eta: not drunk, only had one glass: more lightweight combined with typing too fast)

You're more than welcome to. I've never had a stalker/dbeen stalked before!:j

sss555s wrote: »

The only liquid i'm stuck at home with is Fairy! :rotfl:










Edit: That was a joke, us men have stuff too you know

All this mens exfoliating stuff is blooming claptrap!
Profitable claptrap for someone no doubt.

Grooming for males has a place & a purpose, however I worry about how far it'll go. Had a very long conversation recently with a friend regarding the feminisation of men recently. The male beauty products market was a big thing on the agenda there.

I have to say though, I also think there are way too many female beauty products, & too many of them are labelled as "essential", whereas in fact, they're not. One of the worst sights, is a person with way too much make up etc on. Horrendous.

I see make up & the like as something that is supposed to enhance or compliment the natural beauty that is already there, not to cover it all up & create something you wanna retch at!

Here's an analogy - make up is like having a bit of sauce with your fish n chips. You don't wanna smother it so all you can taste is sauce - it is supposed to compliment the meal, not become it;):D

lemonjelly

fc123 wrote: »

I thought you were female.

I couldn't possibly say on MSE how many pairs I have (including sitting down shoes) but I do have only 1 pair of slippers......3 seems excessive.:D

And on topic to WS thread, I have missed pottering about this evening but have been very disciplined uploading stock. I am bored to death now.

PM's have been bumped over to tomo.

And, to share, had a fairly traumatic phone call last night from a boutique customer who is going down fast. I hardly know her but have chatted to her off and on when she orders and when she opened. It's so sad and it's been on my mind all day.
I sent her some info, budget sheets, links to sss555's biz forum and the number of the guy who advised us on the lease liabilities....she has PG's on everything.
OH says I can't 'do' anything ......which obviously I can't...but I keep thinking about it.
I might tag it onto Pobbys pub thread if I have time tomo.

fc123 wrote: »

I tried with a bloke and a coffee shop (as local to me) but I think he has already decided to go....but didn't seem to 'get' that you can't just walk out of places (mainly due to Business rates).....well you can but it trebles the hassle in an already difficult situation. I got a sweet PM though.

I did offer to travel 4 hours to see the boutique owner but I can't 'do' anything as I would know straight away if it had promise. I know her T/O and fixed costs and they are so wide apart, I don't see how she can pull it back. I can't go there and say something like max it out...then if it still went down it could be seen as 'my fault'?
Nor do I feel it is my place to say she should give up on it...even though that maybe is what she wants to hear.

The hardest part was I am a sort of stranger and she just chose to 'phone me last night and spilled it all out...then she got to the part about using grandmothers CC as a last chance and started to cry. She's got young kids too.
I don't know why it has hit me so hard...afterall she is just a small customer but I know why it's failing.

I think you shared because you care FC123.
She obviously trusts you enough to discuss some quite sensitive issues with you.

It is hard - in my line of work, it is inescapable that there are cases I deal with, where with all the will in the world I don't switch off from, & I wonder what could be done, can anything else be done, have I done all I can for them, how did they get into this situation in the first place. It can become quite easy to see injustice everywhere.

The best thing I can suggest, is rather than do it for her, help her to help herself. Give her information & access to information & support. Allow her to make her own decisions. Arm her with knowledge. Give her the opportunity to learn.

It is difficult at times, especially in the biggest cases of percieved injustice.

I digress. I think you've shared because you care. Because you're a human being. Becuase you are only too aware about how a fellow human being is feeling, especially given that both their livelihood, & also something they are so passionate about is at risk.

I find your posts so good FC123 (I think chucky also said something similar on another thread). So insightful, so eloquent. So well expressed. A credit to forumites everywhere.

lostinrates

lemonjelly wrote: »

:rotfl:
Not one to make a generalisation then carolt?:rotfl:



You're more than welcome to. I've never had a stalker/dbeen stalked before!:j



All this mens exfoliating stuff is blooming claptrap!
Profitable claptrap for someone no doubt.

Grooming for males has a place & a purpose, however I worry about how far it'll go. Had a very long conversation recently with a friend regarding the feminisation of men recently. The male beauty products market was a big thing on the agenda there.

I have to say though, I also think there are way too many female beauty products, & too many of them are labelled as "essential", whereas in fact, they're not. One of the worst sights, is a person with way too much make up etc on. Horrendous.

I see make up & the like as something that is supposed to enhance or compliment the natural beauty that is already there, not to cover it all up & create something you wanna retch at!

Here's an analogy - make up is like having a bit of sauce with your fish n chips. You don't wanna smother it so all you can taste is sauce - it is supposed to compliment the meal, not become it;):D

when I've discussed this in the long gonepast with male friends they point out the natural faces in magazines advertising etc, and I sometimes didn't have the heart to tell them the truth....

Being a woman is fun we can be ''natural'' one day, relly natural the next, or ....red lipstick or smokey eyes the next. I love a bit of bright eyeshadow. Sorry LJ.

lemonjelly

lostinrates wrote: »

when I've discussed this in the long gonepast with male friends they point out the natural faces in magazines advertising etc, and I sometimes didn't have the heart to tell them the truth....

Being a woman is fun we can be ''natural'' one day, relly natural the next, or ....red lipstick or smokey eyes the next. I love a bit of bright eyeshadow. Sorry LJ.

What you have described lir in not an issue for dispute. At least, it isn't something I'd necessarily have any issue with.

I do think that in some respects men have a raw deal. Women have a phenomenal array of methods to affect their appearance ([STRIKE]war paint[/STRIKE] make up is one way). In many respects, this can be & is very alluring. But it is also full of danger - I am aware of a few people who've gone for a night out & had a trainspotting moment the next morning. Having worked in a pub I have heard many blokes telling each other about being careful - "you can't always tell when they've got the war paint on" (I assume this was an age related conversation.).

Clothes are a similar thing. Men, suit or casual? If casual, slacks or jeans? Shirt & tie, tshirt, jumper. That's about it. & mens clothing is also generally more expensive. There are lots of boutiques in shopping places with tons of different styles for the ladies with all items really cheap - now I appreciate that the quality may well match the price. However it means ladies can concoct new outfits very cheaply at the drop of a hat, & it can be a throwaway outfit at that - never to be worn again.

In addition, look at the options - skirt, dress, formal, informal, trousers, short, long, tshirt, blouse, cardy, all sorts of different tops & wraparound things & accessories. & we haven't even got on to shoes...;) (trainers or shoes vs heels, flats, boots (oh which height?) flip-flops, sandals ad infinitum)

Perhaps that is why men/women take different lengths of time to get ready? The difficulty is in the decision making process, & men simply have fewer options than the ladies?

lostinrates

lemonjelly wrote: »

What you have described lir in not an issue for dispute. At least, it isn't something I'd necessarily have any issue with.

I do think that in some respects men have a raw deal. Women have a phenomenal array of methods to affect their appearance ([STRIKE]war paint[/STRIKE] make up is one way). In many respects, this can be & is very alluring. But it is also full of danger - I am aware of a few people who've gone for a night out & had a trainspotting moment the next morning. Having worked in a pub I have heard many blokes telling each other about being careful - "you can't always tell when they've got the war paint on" (I assume this was an age related conversation.).

Clothes are a similar thing. Men, suit or casual? If casual, slacks or jeans? Shirt & tie, tshirt, jumper. That's about it. & mens clothing is also generally more expensive. There are lots of boutiques in shopping places with tons of different styles for the ladies with all items really cheap - now I appreciate that the quality may well match the price. However it means ladies can concoct new outfits very cheaply at the drop of a hat, & it can be a throwaway outfit at that - never to be worn again.

In addition, look at the options - skirt, dress, formal, informal, trousers, short, long, tshirt, blouse, cardy, all sorts of different tops & wraparound things & accessories. & we haven't even got on to shoes...;) (trainers or shoes vs heels, flats, boots (oh which height?) flip-flops, sandals ad infinitum)

Perhaps that is why men/women take different lengths of time to get ready? The difficulty is in the decision making process, & men simply have fewer options than the ladies?

all agreed with. But then, I'm not a huge fan of throw away clothes. I do look totally different made up:o...and I make up differntly, different techniques. so can look different one day to the next...not so easy now, but when younger, very easy.

Men can and do take ages to get ready, they just don't realise it. I can get a normal ''day face'' on in half the time it takes DH to shave.

Men can also conceal a lot with clever dressing...and somethings work some don't. Men be warned: that t shirt does nothing for man boobs or a belly..like three little hills under your top. I dislike short sleeved shirts and button down collars on men personally...

lemonjelly

lostinrates wrote: »

all agreed with. But then, I'm not a huge fan of throw away clothes. I do look totally different made up:o...and I make up differntly, different techniques. so can look different one day to the next...not so easy now, but when younger, very easy.

Men can and do take ages to get ready, they just don't realise it. I can get a normal ''day face'' on in half the time it takes DH to shave.

Men can also conceal a lot with clever dressing...and somethings work some don't. Men be warned: that t shirt does nothing for man boobs or a belly..like three little hills under your top. I dislike short sleeved shirts and button down collars on men personally...

Nothing here to disagree with.

I abhor the throwaway element of our society (hence my personal clothes challenge!)

Re the bit in bold, I know you are in no way alone in this thinking! The short sleeved shirts are especially unpopular.

In fairness to the men (ahem!) what clever dressing tips would you give? :A

lostinrates

lemonjelly wrote: »

Nothing here to disagree with.

I abhor the throwaway element of our society (hence my personal clothes challenge!)

Re the bit in bold, I know you are in no way alone in this thinking! The short sleeved shirts are especially unpopular.

In fairness to the men (ahem!) what clever dressing tips would you give? :A

Depends on the man.....

I think my dh does reasonably well. He has distinctly unclassic proportions, short limbs, big bones, (but not fat) and ...not tall. so its harder for him than many. He's yummy though....(I really miss him today....thursdays are the worst...)

lemonjelly

lostinrates wrote: »

Depends on the man.....

I think my dh does reasonably well. He has distinctly unclassic proportions, short limbs, big bones, (but not fat) and ...not tall. so its harder for him than many. He's yummy though....(I really miss him today....thursdays are the worst...)

Thursdays are sleepy/tired days for me...

lostinrates

lemonjelly wrote: »

- "you can't always tell when they've got the war paint on" (I assume this was an age related conversation.).

I'm always amazed how many people are fooled by make up and cleaver clothes/hairstyling. I have quite narrow range of (purely looks) ''beautiful'' which I think is v. rare and ''pretty'' which is more common and ''attractive'' which almost every woman can be with the ''right equipment''. Some people classed routinely as beautiful are really quite...nuetral, but are ''attractive'' because of that: that natural make up thing....you think you're buying a drink for a stunner.

Of course, none of it really matters. I think DH is beautiful, he's certainly the person I most long to see always, but on paper, he's squat and hirsute....beauty, real proper beauty, not the sort I'm talking about above, is truly in the eye of the beholder.