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Parental Responsibility

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  • vanoonoo
    vanoonoo Posts: 1,897 Forumite
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    the law is an !!!!!! on this one, although originally it was put in place (by nmen for men) to prevent claims on paternity (prior to dna testing and effect contraception) so if at the time of birth you didn't agree to being the father then you couldn't be registered on the birth certificate, in addition you actually had to turn up at the registry to appear on the certificate if you and the mother weren't married!

    Thankfully parental responsibility rights have changed now (part of what those superdads on the m25 were demonstrating for).

    It's actually a really simple process now to get the rights too and needn't involve solicitors.

    Good luck everyone going through it. I helped my neighbour with the paperwork this time last year and it really isn't very complex if you both agree and can demonstrate who you are and that you are the parent.
    Blah
  • mistral_2
    mistral_2 Posts: 150 Forumite
    Ok big thanks , form downloaded and filled in .

    Then take it in to any County court with relevant paperwork and it is completed free of charge .


    This will be done this week !
    'The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides with the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
  • Fran
    Fran Posts: 11,280 Forumite
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    ....can demonstrate who you are and that you are the parent.

    Oh dear! MC might have a problem there as he has said elsewhere how good he is at hiding his identity!! Just sign yourself as "MC" and show them a picture of your avatar MC!! ;)
    Torgwen.......... :) ...........
  • mistral_2
    mistral_2 Posts: 150 Forumite
    I only hide it online but if you want my ip address now I have not scrambled it today as it slows the system down .

    It is not that hard to hide yourself a little when on line but when you think how many credit cards I have I am hardly hidden !!!

    I will have to educate the registrar who informed me I was legally covered when I registered his birth !!!


    The link for the form is here

    [ftp]http://www.courtservice.gov.uk/cms/media/c(pra)(9.01).pdf[/ftp]
    'The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides with the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
  • Fran
    Fran Posts: 11,280 Forumite
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    Info re Parental Responsibility:

    http://www.pressbox.co.uk/Detailed/12274.html
    Torgwen.......... :) ...........
  • mini
    mini Posts: 833 Forumite
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    A worthy point I feel on this, mini goes to put benefit head on......

    How much money will you get if you have children & either you or your partner dies? You are likely to get less money if you are not married.

    The following link may be worth looking at...

    http://www.dwp.gov.uk/lifeevent/benefits/widowed_parents_allowance.asp

    Whilst I wouldn't recommend yusing this information in a proposal for marriage it's worth thinking about.


    I feel really miserable for mentioning it, hope nobody takes offence.

    mini
  • Fran
    Fran Posts: 11,280 Forumite
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    Note it does not apply in Scotland. As usual there is not enough information forthcoming from the government about this benefit. How does it affect Income Support for example? What is the actual cash gain from it if you are on Income Support and other benefits? Also on the website it says "Minimum Income Guarantee" and when you click it, it leaps to "Pension Credit". If you haven't heard of either it's pretty confusing. ???
    Torgwen.......... :) ...........
  • mini
    mini Posts: 833 Forumite
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    The purpose of the benefit was to provide entitlement for widowed fathers, previously it was only women who could claim.
    The benefit is not affected by money received from work, i was merely pointing out the governements financial provision only applies to married couples & given how long it took them to pay anything to widowed fathers it may be quite some time before they change it for couples living together.
  • trafalgar_2
    trafalgar_2 Posts: 22,309 Forumite
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    This may make interesting reading for some


    I have read through these posts with interest because of the situation my friend was in

    If I understand it right some fathers who have their names on their childs birth certificates ,but werent married to the mother at the time have to apply for parental rights

    That changed if your child was born after 1/12/2003


    My friends situation is this
    She had a child
    was not married to the father
    father disputed child was his
    csa did test 6yrs later (could not find him)
    proved paternity
    father shocked ,surprised, happy
    registered as father (it was blank)
    now has full parental rights because details were entered after 1/12/2003

    surely if that can happen it should of been made retrospective for all those fathers who were there for their kids
  • Fran
    Fran Posts: 11,280 Forumite
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    Yes, but unfortunately it is not retrospective, but they can still register for Parental Responsibility either by entering into an agreement with the mother or through the court which is a simple enough procedure providing the mother doesn't object and there are reasons why he shouldn't.
    Torgwen.......... :) ...........
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