A future fair for all?

Kohoutek

StevieJ wrote: »

Problem is the one that potentially doesn't know what he is doing has got his hands on the finances :eek:

True, he reminds me of Labour's Chancellor in 1997 though! Never had a proper job, spent virtually his whole career in politics...

I hope his record isn't going to be as disastrous as Gordon Brown!

lostinrates

Mr.Brown wrote: »

I was a 97 Blair voter, and watched in horror as the years have unfolded. Power clearly corrupts, very quickly.

This is interesting. I think it might, but I wonder if there is a ....acceleration or further deviance on the impact of power on people with a more left wing bent. If you belief in A future fair for all, as an idealistic concept, then each further step you have from the average is a knock on the ''fairness'' in equality....

sorry, this is not very clear, I'm thinking faster than I can type but there is an interesting philosophical concept that I can't find the words for here....and probably isn't much to do with economy anyway, so I shall raise it as a conversation topic at lunch.

Mr.Brown_4

On the "second look at Labour" theme. Before I flushed the toilet this morning I took a second look. Didn't really want to, knew what it would look like, and to be honest the smell was a bit rank. But I looked, and then I flushed. All gone.

Kohoutek

Mr.Brown wrote: »

I was a 97 Blair voter, and watched in horror as the years have unfolded. Power clearly corrupts, very quickly.

If only we had heeded the Tories warning!

ukcarper

The fact that clarke isn’t shadow chancellor should tell you somrthing about the tory party

treliac

Mr.Brown wrote: »

I was a 97 Blair voter, and watched in horror as the years have unfolded. Power clearly corrupts, very quickly.

I was too... and quite taken in by the sweet-talking slimy character. The saying, I think, is 'Absolute power corrupts absolutely.' Never have we seen that as clearly as with this government. Didn't Blair promise to put right the sleaze of the previous one? The sleaze, since then, has been utterly unprecedented.

And now Brown asks us to take a second look at Labour!

I accept that Cameron is an unknown quantity, as were Labour in 1997 - and look what we got.

I can only maintain the deepest hope that whatever happens after this May, something can be learnt from history and the legacy of this government's rule.

vivatifosi

StevieJ wrote: »

Problem is the one that potentially doesn't know what he is doing has got his hands on the finances :eek:

Oh boy Stevie, you hit the nail right on the head there. Nothing scares me more than thinking that at a time when we're in our biggest financial crisis ever, that we're going to hand the purse strings to someone without the experience and who was his own party's third choice for the post. Still, with his family background, maybe he'll be good at papering over the cracks :eek:

Mr.Brown_4

treliac wrote: »

I can only maintain the deepest hope that whatever happens after this May, something can be learnt from history and the legacy of this government's rule.

I suspect it won't be. But I think the idea with democracy is we change direction every so often, remove the old ways, have some new blood, and go along with that for a while. Then we change again. And thank goodness for that.

Kohoutek

Asking voters to take a second look at Labour is like asking investors to take a second look at Enron...I hope there aren't many people stupid enough to fall for it.

treliac

Mr.Brown wrote: »

I suspect it won't be. But I think the idea with democracy is we change direction every so often, remove the old ways, have some new blood, and go along with that for a while. Then we change again. And thank goodness for that.

Mmmm, being thoroughly disheartened and fed-up with this govt. doesn't mean I have implicit faith in the alternative. Can only hope. But, like you, I believe we do urgently need change.