A future fair for all?

CloudCuckooLand

tanith wrote: »

A lot of people keen to see the Tories in power are too young to remember exactly how bad it was , I sadly am not...

A lot of people are too young to remember Labour's previous failure to run the country. Sadly, I am not, and nor am I surprised that they screwed things up again this time - its what they do.

And, however bad it was under the Tories in-between (which is debatable, just like today's recession is not too bad for some), at least the dead were being buried.

From their OWN website; http://www.labour.org.uk/history_of_the_labour_party2

"Callaghan presided over one of the most difficult periods of Government for Labour, with rampant inflation, crippling industrial action led by increasingly militant trade unions, and culminating in the disastrous 'winter of discontent' on 1978-9, when rubbish went uncollected and dead bodies unburied."

Kohoutek

I wonder if Brown has read this Callaghan quote?

"We used to think that you could spend your way out of a recession and increase employment by cutting taxes and boosting government spending. I tell you in all candour that this option no longer exists, and in so far as it ever did exist, it only worked on each occasion since the war by injecting a bigger dose of inflation into the economy, followed by a higher level of unemployment as the next step."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/James_Callaghan

Mr.Smith_6

treliac wrote: »

Interesting. I wonder if they bypass the telephone preference service. I shouldn't expect to get a call, but I'm waiting for their electioneering on the doorstep.

Damn is that why I can't get through to you

nitr02007

peterg1965 wrote: »

The biggest load of b****** ever. Only 'fair' if you are in a minority group. I am fed up to the back teeth of their patronising claptrap. They have had their chance - 13 years of Govt, 13 years of wasted opportunity, wasted money and 13 years of devolving power to Europe, 13 years of creating 500,000 State non-jobs, 13 years of creating the biggest budget deficit in our history. People need to wake up to the realisms of this disastrous load of amateurs.

Pretty much sums up how I feel. They squandered our money when times were good, they're squandering our money now times are bad, and they now want more time so that they can ... ... well, I'll let you guess the likely result.

ukcarper

treliac wrote: »

You mean you don't think that still happens. I knew someone who died a couple of years ago while waiting for essential surgery that kept being put back.

A lot of it's concealed by dishonestly compiled targets, e.g. being kept in ambulances to cut down on A & E waits and moving people into 'assessment units' to shove them along. Looks good, doesn't mean anything is getting done.

I don't remember sick people getting put in store cupboards in the past either!
http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/eveningnews24/norwich-news/story.aspx?brand=ENOnline&category=NewsSplash&tBrand=ENOnline&tCategory=xNews&itemid=t 2 years just to see a consukltantNOED18%20Feb%202010%2007%3A32%3A49%3A387

It was routine to wait well over a year to see a consultant now it’s usually less than 3months. Things are no where near perfect and the money ploughed in has not been used as well as it could be but I can tell you it is a lot better than it was.

lostinrates

I wonder if those in the civil service working under Brown feel their employment is fair? They seem not to be very happy about his treatment and behaviour towards them. If he can't even provide a fair working environment in his own offices...after all it costs nothing to behave with civility....how does he hope to extend this to things he cannot perfectly control?

One of the first lessons that you get taught as a child is...life is NOT fair and to deal with that the best you can.

treliac

This sort of publicity is hardly going to enhance Gordon's chances. Compounds my feeling he is desperate to keep control by absolutely any means and that he is not the sort of personality to have real leadership quality. We need someone with some compassion and personal insight to address the many problems in our society today.... not another bully.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/feb/21/gordon-brown-abusive-treatment-staff

Author, Andrew Rawnsley, is to be interviewed at 1.15pm on the BBC News Channel.

Liquorice_Twirls

Does it even make grammatical sense? Should there not be either a comma after future (A future, fair for all) or should it actually say "A fair future for all"?

When I type "A future fair for all" into Word, it advises me to check the grammar and considering revising!!!

Reminds me of the book Eats shoots and leaves, it can be read in more than one way.

Perhaps the spin doctors should go and get some more Education, Education, Education!

Mr.Brown_4

lostinrates wrote: »

I wonder if those in the civil service working under Brown feel their employment is fair? They seem not to be very happy about his treatment and behaviour towards them.

Clearly he is a nasty bully. The Labour spin doctors can't just deny it. So this morning they are spinning it into 'passion'.

He is so passionate about fixing the economy that he, er, was responsible for. Or is he passionate about the Afghan war? Or the bankers bonuses?

Was he passionate about Cadburys, Corus, etc?

One, of the many issues, that sticks in my mind is the treatment of those poor savers in the Xmas fund that went belly up. Not one penny from Labour. Couldn't afford it? Saving our taxes? Yeah right.

I was a 97 Blair voter, and watched in horror as the years have unfolded. Power clearly corrupts, very quickly.

StevieJ

Kohoutek wrote: »

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The Tories are pretty awful too, but they've got a few people that might potentially know what they're doing (e.g. Hague, Clarke, Willetts). I can't see how you can have any faith in the competence of any Labour politician.

Time to give the other team a chance.

Problem is the one that potentially doesn't know what he is doing has got his hands on the finances :eek: