Removing artex...

goonernumber1

New flat I have just bought has the most awful artex walls in the passage way. Any ideas onhow to get rid of it? Thanks...

cargo

Pva and skim over at the least,if to thick pva a tight coat of carlite bonding then skim over,providing you have enough depth on skirting boards and arc's etc.

Removal is dirty,hard work and walls can be damaged and still need re skimming.

goonernumber1

cargo wrote:

Pva and skim over at the least,if to thick pva a tight coat of carlite bonding then skim over,providing you have enough depth on skirting boards and arc's etc.

Removal is dirty,hard work and walls can be damaged and still need re skimming.

OUCH!

There goes my idea of a nice easy machine called an artex remover.

chirpy007

Also bare in mind that some Artex was made with Asbestos :eek: :eek: :eek:

goonernumber1

chirpy007 wrote:

Also bare in mind that some Artex was made with Asbestos :eek: :eek: :eek:

What the hell does three hair raisers mean!! Am I in some sort of trouble if it is??

chirpy007

goonernumber1 wrote:

What the hell does three hair raisers mean!! Am I in some sort of trouble if it is??

It means that if it was made with Asbetos and you breathe it in you can be !!!!!!lm sorry if its a bit alarmist but my dad is dying of this and has never worked with Asbestos. He caught from some everyday item/thing and lm just making you aware.

HugoSP

Just make sure that the artex is not applied over lining paper.

I went to a job ready to skim over the stuff, when I noticed that it was on lining paper!

I just scored and wetted the paper off. The walls were 90 year old lime plaster, so a steamer was not an option. The walls needed some repair with Tilcon renvating plaster and high impact finish skim, but certainly not thistle multifinish!

The decorators then took over from there and the job looked brilliant.

nelly_2

HugoSP wrote:

The walls needed some repair with Tilcon renvating plaster and high impact finish skim, but certainly not thistle multifinish!

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Why not multifinish?

HugoSP

nelly wrote:

Why not multifinish?

I could have used multifinish but we're talking lime plaster walls here. The Tilcon products are specifically designed for use with these. I removed areas that had been repaired badly with thistle one coat and multi finish - they had started to come away from the walls.

Even Thistle will tell you that their products cannot be used with lime plaster walls.

OK they can be used but they don't allow the walls or existing plaster to breath or move etc as they were originally intended. I have used sand and cement render followed by multi finish on stone walls but in my defence they have been to do the whole wall, rather than just patch plaster.

On this particular job I now know that the limelite renovating plaster will work and breath etc with the existing plaster around it. Multi finish my have peeled off at the first sign of damp of condensation.

kittiwoz

Whether the Artex on your walls conatins asbestos will depend on how old it is although I'm not sure when they stopped using it. Asbestos is carcinogenic if you inhale it as dust but it is not dangerous while it is locked into the Artex (if indeed it does contain asbestos.) That's why Cargo is recomending that you plaster over it rather that try to remove it which could create dust.

waster_2

If your property was built after say 1985 then it will not have Artex that contained asbestos fibres. If it was built before then, then it may well have as they stopped using asbestos in its manufacture in the late70's/early 80's, I cannot recall exactly when.

However, if this was applied as a decoratiove finish after the property was built then you'll have to make a guess how long it has been on the walls/ceilings.

Are you sure it is artex? As artex sometimes gets used as a generic name for textured coatings ( a bit like Hoover for vacuum cleaner). If in doubt assume it does contain asbestos, whatever make it may be, and skim over rather than hack/scrape off. Better to be safe than sorry.