help please on web site bulding

Lil306

PCease wrote: »

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It's against forum rules to advertise services such as this but besides that please don't do a typical thing and state your bandwidth is "unlimited", because there is no such thing. Everything is 'finite, that's just a typical attitude of an overseller attracting business. Your sites are being hosted by Webfusion Datacentre by looks of it

nickmatthews wrote: »

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As above, stop advertising services. Against forum rules.

savemoney wrote: »

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Told you

somebody10 wrote: »

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This is very good advice, there are a lot of sites which offer "professional" templates for free, however you may have to put up with advertising or pay a small fee to remove it but you can have a professional site

PCease wrote: »

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Matter of opinion, a badly created site can do this, but providing you have good monitoring services and have adequate systems this should not be much of any issue, but that's something else.

cit_k

PCease wrote: »

I own several dedicated servers I use for hosting client websites which are all UK based and offers unlimited traffic because it has its own dedicated fibre optic link and its own data center that is not shared with other hosting companies.

Cheap (or free) hosting is normally US based (or European) which means you may lose a lot of UK based traffic in the search engines).

Kind regards

Paul

Its own data center that is not shared with other hosting companies? So you are the only host in that company? Your say you own several dedicated servers, so your not renting them from another host? And you have a whole data centre to yourself????

As for unlimited traffic, pull the other one, google could just hire your server to do all the web spidering, saving them billions on having multiple data centers around the world to do it, after all yours has no limits, so would be able to cope....

Lil306

cit_k wrote: »

Its own data center that is not shared with other hosting companies? So you are the only host in that company? Your say you own several dedicated servers, so your not renting them from another host? And you have a whole data centre to yourself????

As for unlimited traffic, pull the other one, google could just hire your server to do all the web spidering, saving them billions on having multiple data centers around the world to do it, after all yours has no limits, so would be able to cope....

Another one on the ball

The datacentre hosting the services is Webfusion, they're doing typical resellers aswell saying "Unlimited".. gets on my nerves

I'd love to see a hypothetical legimate situation where one customer would generate something like 100 Petabytes of Traffic per month and see how their pipe copes

smk77

Mudd14 wrote: »

I personally feel this is expensive for domain and hosting, you could get domain names for £6.00 for two years and hosting for a year at £10.00! I could sort out unlimited webspace and bandwidth for £40.00 per annum.

This isnt a sales pitch just a realistic price comparison.

£80 a month for a reliable and professional PHP/MySQL hosting doesn't seem too expensive to me.

Kurtis_Blue wrote: »

I use http://www.actinic.co.uk/ecommerce-software-for-businesses/products/actinic-catalog.html

Highly recommend for the non techy, and very good for inbuilt seo, google base feeds, checkout integration etc.

I used Actinic years ago. Must have been at least 10 years! It was brilliant for the price at the time but I can't comment on it now.

cit_k

Someone setting up a search engine, spidering all sites on the internet, or a web archiving site, archiving all sites on a daily basis could cause them problems

cit_k

smk77 wrote: »

£80 a month for a reliable and professional PHP/MySQL hosting doesn't seem too expensive to me.
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I could rent a full dedicated server for that amount.... Less than that amount even...

chachu201

smk77 wrote: »

£80 a month for a reliable and professional PHP/MySQL hosting doesn't seem too expensive to me.

Youre joking right? I think youre being thoroughly ripped off, or else youre hosting some massive site!

Ok, now for my two cents. You mention that youre not familiar with the technical side of things, now this is fine, if you want to spend money. And seeing as youre on MoneySavingExpert, I'm guessing this isnt the case! Save money, and learn the technical stuff yourself. The only expense involved with this is your time, and doing your own web development will slash costs massively. Plus, the skills you learn are extremely valuable and can be used to make money for yourself.

What you want to do is sign up for a hosting package that includes MySQL, try HostGator and the Hatchling plan. This will cost you between $4.95 USD and $8.95 USD monthly.

Then, depending on your approach, either install the Joomla content management system (free) or the osCommerce e-commerce system (free).

Then I suggest you buy your domain from Google, GoDaddy, or have it included with the hosting package from wherever you buy, once again I suggest HostGator. This will cost you something very minimal, youre looking at between $1 and $15 depending on which domain you use. Wherever you buy your domain from, sign up for Google Apps for email and other ser.ices. This is free.

(unfortunately I cant post links, but PM me if you want these, or use Google)

PCease

Two of my fastest dedicated servers are rented from Webfusion... they own their own data centers. I also use a webfusion server for web development and testing and upload / download in excess of 1TB per month.... you dont get that with the cheap hosting...

UK based = faster and more reliable page loads, better google searches (they favour UK to US servers if you are looking for a UK based product or service).

Like I said, you get what you pay for... each dedicated server costs me almost £2000 per year... never had anyone complain about slow websites... in fact I monitor all websites and never had a problem.

cit_k

Mudd14 wrote: »

I personally feel this is expensive for domain and hosting, you could get domain names for £6.00 for two years and hosting for a year at £10.00! I could sort out unlimited webspace and bandwidth for £40.00 per annum.

This isnt a sales pitch just a realistic price comparison.

No such thing as unlimited webspace and bandwidth.

PCease

cit_k wrote: »

No such thing as unlimited webspace and bandwidth.

webspace is always limited...

bandwidth (or traffic) can technically be unlimited... i.e. you will find that if you a maxing out your bandwidth (traffic), then you are more than likely maxing out your server resources (such as hard disk space, cpu etc) and it wont cope! This requires purchasing more resources (more servers) to handle more bandwidth and the cycle starts again! so, this could be unlimited bandwidth... unlimited to what the server can physically handle...!