stud dog

dipsy

Hi

does anyone know the best place to advertise my dog for stud?

I want to mate him and have been led to believe, not sure if this is correct or not

that we can either have pick of litter or cost of a puppy?

we would like pick of litter,

what do we have to do when offering our dog for stud, I mean does he just turn up of chosen and do the biz so to speak or do we need to fill in any forms etc? he is KC registered

thanks in advance.

Rosie75

Some basic info on this website:
http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/55104.html

I'd recommend joining that particular forum if you are seriously considering using your dog at stud. There's more to it than just letting the dogs get on with it (eg. health screening, understanding pedigrees, ensuring a "tie" happens, offering advice to the !!!!!'s owner, etc), and you'll get more responses from experienced breeders on that website.

Nile

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foreign_correspondent

You need to look into the appropriate health checks needed for his particular breed before you start thinking about whether to breed him. Also, unless he has some particularly good qualities, decent breeders will not be interested. What breed is he?

cheepskate_2

dipsy wrote: »

Hi

does anyone know the best place to advertise my dog for stud?

Before you even look into studding your dog , you need to know not only what his good structual qualities are but also his faults. You dont want to go passing on bow legs to a large litter or such.
You also need to be able to look at the !!!!! and be able to tell if your dog matched to her would benefit the breed. This would also entail knowing the pedigree and what has been thrown out already in previous generation matings.

If you are only wanting another dog, then i would just go to a reputable breeder for a pup rather than mate willy nilly and get horrendous type dogs,

From what you are saying it seems like you have not a clue about mating, dont mean that in a bad way, but it seems like this will just be another mating with the dog down the road type.

foreign_correspondent

cheepskate wrote: »

Before you even look into studding your dog , you need to know not only what his good structual qualities are but also his faults. You dont want to go passing on bow legs to a large litter or such.

I agree, or even serious congenital defects, which may not affect your dog, but which may be apparent in later life, or which he may carry the genes for... not doing this prior to breeding may result in pups which suffer from diseases ranging from hip dysplasia to cardiac problems, to name just a couple...

Breeding is not something to go into lightly

Sequeena

Only consider studding if your dog is a good example of his breed, has proved himself in the showring or has working titles, is fully health tested and clear of any genetic illnesses his breed carries. Unless you are breeding lurchers etc then your dog should be KC.

Breeding should never be taken lightly. It's not a case of throwing 2 dogs together.

Frugalista

dipsy wrote: »

Hi

does anyone know the best place to advertise my dog for stud?

The best advertisement for a potential stud dog is to be seen consistently winning in the showring (to prove he is an excellent representative of his breed) or at Field Trial/Working Trials, etc (to prove he has the necessary working ability/stamina). He would also need current and up-to-date certificates for any health testing relevant to his breed. You would also need to be cognisant of the health status of his parents, grandparents, and littermates at the very least. When you have all the above in place you sit back and wait for owners of females to approach you. The best dogs don't ever need to place an ad in the classifieds

I want to mate him and have been led to believe, not sure if this is correct or not that we can either have pick of litter or cost of a puppy?

we would like pick of litter,

An unproven (or first time) stud dog would not be able to command a very high stud fee and would usually only get a fraction of a normal stud fee. For instance, in my breed a Group Placing Champion dog who has already produced Champion offspring would usually charge around £650. An unproven (but winning) dog would expect around £250 for a proving stud. This would not be paid until the female has either been scanned to confirm pregnancy or has given birth - unlike when using a proven stud where the stud fee would be paid at the time of mating.

Also, as puppies (in my breed) sell for around £750 it would be extremely unlikely that the owner of the female is going to hand over a pup in exchange for a £250 stud - and certainly not pick of litter!!

what do we have to do when offering our dog for stud, I mean does he just turn up of chosen and do the biz so to speak or do we need to fill in any forms etc? he is KC registered

It is usual for the female to come to the stud dogs home for any matings so you would have to be available at a time to suit the owners (and to fit in with the females cycle). If they have travelled a long way it is usual to offer them refreshments and/or a meal. If they are travelling from the other side of the country you may also need to offer/find overnight accommodation for them. It is ususal to do two matings with a 24 hour gap between them - so you may be tied up for a few days.

You also need a secure, quiet area for the mating. As the owner of the stud dog, the onus is on you to make sure a successful mating & tie takes place - so you need to know how to deal with nervous or aggressive females; nervous and/or over-protective owners; an inexperienced stud dog, etc, etc. If you are charging for a service you need to be sure you know exactly what you are doing.

Copies of all his health certificates need to be available for the females' owners. Some people like an official copy of his pedigree and/or show wins which you have to order in advance (and pay for) from the Kennel Club. You also need a litter registration form which you have to fill in and sign at the time of mating.

thanks in advance.

The above is just a very basic outline of what owning a stud dog entails - and it can be far more involved than that.

What breed is your dog? What makes you think he is suitable for stud work? Has he been shown or worked? Do you know enough about the breed and the various bloodlines to be able to advise owners of females about his genetic health? Do you have the space/facilities to take any puppies of his in if they don't sell? Can you take in any of his offspring in a few years if they fall on hard times?

If you are not sure about any of the above questions or answer No to any of them - then I would advise you to leave it to the experts. If it's just a new pup you want then go back to his breeder and see if they have any close relatives available.

Trust me, stud work is not just about letting your dog getting his jollies and then pocketing the cash!! But fair play to you for asking advice first.

HTH .

lostinrates

Even before all of the above, which is all correct!, you need to check his offspring can be registered, which is not the same as him being KC registered, in my breed in any case, most pups are sold with endorsements to prevent back yard breeders with little knowledge making poor decisions and registering the results.

Frugalista

lostinrates wrote: »

Even before all of the above, which is all correct!, you need to check his offspring can be registered, which is not the same as him being KC registered, in my breed in any case, most pups are sold with endorsements to prevent back yard breeders with little knowledge making poor decisions and registering the results.

Absolutely! It's the same in my breed too .

welshmoneylover

Once your dog has a taste of 't'other' he will not be the same dog again. He might get to like it and expect it a bit more often.