Europrofile locks on uPVC doors

kwikbreaks

wazza wrote: »

How easy is it to break into the door locks fitted to uPVC double glazed doors?

A lot harder than it is to either remove or smash the double glazing panel.

kwikbreaks

John_Gray wrote: »

Some doors are staggeringly simply to break...

There is a vet a few doors down from where I live. The last time it was broken into the junkies just kicked in the bottom half of the door.

Insurance companies may put faith in the quality of locks that are fitted and even offer discounts but the scumbags of today simply bypass them entirely. Often to get hold of the keys for "thief proof " modern cars - my son woke up one morning and thought it was a bit chilly in his kitchen. Then he noticed the window was on the lawn. Then he noticed his scooby-doo had gone missing. The 13 year old thief was caught driving it around a few days later.

ToughLocks

A standard euro cylinder can be snapped and entry gained in less than a minute with basic tools. My personal record is 8 seconds from start to finish - don't panic I'm one of the good guys lol.

On the subject of forced entry, we went out to a young couple who had bought a new house on the edge of a dodgy estate and had been broken into. They'd previously had the locks and handles changed, everything nailed down that they could, house alarm fitted, and some scrotes decided to smash the glass unit in a French Door with a concrete block!
Exit one new telly

We ended up fitting blast proof film to the ground floor windows of the house, the stuff designed to withstand car bomb blasts - personally I think if it got that far it's time to sell up and move somewhere more pleasant

You can never stop someone getting in who is determined, all you can do is slow their entry down and make it as obvious as possible.

grumpytoo

timbim wrote: »

But then that does leave signs of forced entry...

I was locked out once and it was a Sunday night. I've never been a very patient person and wanted to get to bed so when the door wouldn't give I hit it with the spare wheel of my car. That did it! It made quite a mess but I had to buy a new door.

As to UPVC doors with multi-point locks. A friend in Cardiff had his front door forced whilst he was at work. The lock was a Ferco 2 roller. The "keeps" which are only made of Mazak alloy were broken and the main lock was somehow sprung. If possible go for a 4 roller lock, one that uses pressed steel keeps.
The problem with all doors is that extra bolts can only be used when one is in. When one is out the bolts can't be used. A friend who used to live in an ex-council Islington flat also had door trouble. He bought a new door from a nearby locksmiths at the Barbican. The door was very thick plywood with a strong multi point lock. Bolts shot out side, top and bottom and the hinge side had hinge bolts as well. The burglars never defeated that one but what a way to live.

grumpytoo

wazza wrote: »

Hope i have posted this in the right place.

How easy is it to break into the door locks fitted to uPVC double glazed doors? I believe the lock is called euro profile lock. Heard that the standard locks can either be snapped in half if it sticks out or if a correct blank key is used they can unlock the lock and enter the premise without any damage.

Is there any way of securing the door which is back of the house?

The back door could have ordinary door bolts fitted (not terribly elegant but there are some nice chromium plated ones about)

Check whether your door has a 2 roller or 4 roller lock. Check to see whether the "keeps" that the rollers go into are pressed steel or "monkey metal". 4 roller and steel keeps are best. As to the main lock, deadlocks are better than the basic version and some locks also have a hook bolt which secures the door to the frame. A good door is quite expensive but so is your laptop and flat screen TV. Believe me burglars have NO SCRUPLES WHATSOEVER and one can only assume that they are desperate to raise the money that they owe to drug dealers.

The root cause is "Soft on crime, soft on the causes of crime" as I call it.

grumpytoo

wazza wrote: »

Hope i have posted this in the right place.

How easy is it to break into the door locks fitted to uPVC double glazed doors? I believe the lock is called euro profile lock. Heard that the standard locks can either be snapped in half if it sticks out or if a correct blank key is used they can unlock the lock and enter the premise without any damage.

Is there any way of securing the door which is back of the house?

The back door could have ordinary door bolts fitted (not terribly elegant but there are some nice chromium plated ones about)

Check whether your door has a 2 roller or 4 roller lock. Check to see whether the "keeps" that the rollers go into are pressed steel or "monkey metal". 4 roller and steel keeps are best. As to the main lock, deadlocks are better than the basic version and some locks also have a hook bolt which secures the door to the frame. A good door is quite expensive but so is your laptop and flat screen TV. Believe me burglars have NO SCRUPLES WHATSOEVER and one can only assume that they are desperate to raise the money that they owe to drug dealers.

The root cause is "Soft on crime, soft on the causes of crime" as I call it.

forgotmyname

WOW!!!! 3 posts to the same topic that was started 10 months ago and the last one was 7 months ago

Well done.

DatabaseError

yeah..some thread resurrection here

anyway, on the same theme, I bought a set of southord picks and managed to pick a europrofile lock within an hour
certainly no good if i wanted to be a burglar, but it hi-lighted just how unsafe anything other than a mortice lock is (and yeah, I know they can be picked too)

Chippy121

Hi Guys
I want to change the uPVC Euro Cylinder lock in my porch as I have lost the key. I bought a new anti-snap lock, as my friends are all changing to these new safer locks but I can't undo the screw in the edge of the plastic uPVC door that holds the Profile cylinder lock in place...What can I do without having to get an expensive Locksmith in.... please???

Chip

martyn05

Is the door locked or unlocked? Why can't you undo the screw? Use an impact driver or cut a slot in the screw with a dremmel multi tool and use a flat blade screwdriver. Take the handles off and snap the lock out. Plenty of videos on YouTube showing you how to do this.