Generation Y too "lazy & unfocused" to hire...

StevieJ

InaPickle wrote: »

Surely a prospective employee would like to think that a prospective employee would show equal loyalty to them if they started to work for them, rather than run off at the sign of the first opportunity for himself?
Maybe that's unfair and it depends on how much notice is 'short notice', but it sounds quite harsh.

I turned down a job interview with a top employer because my employer needed me, they came back six months later and I then interviewed and was offered the job, I think turning them down (and the reason for) helped.

InaPickle

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

:rotfl:

Unlikely. But if you did, we're actually very nice. It's just intense, and highly stressed. Which is the point.

Fair enough. I doubt I will introduce myself to anyone as 'Pickle' in a job interview. I doubt your login name is your true one, but if I'm ever interviewed by a Hamish, I will think of you!

InaPickle

StevieJ wrote: »

I turned down a job interview with a top employer because my employer needed me, they came back six months later and I then interviewed and was offered the job, I think turning them down (and the reason for) helped.

That's good to hear, but it may be that someone who turned down in interview might not get a second one. Personally, I think it shows loyalty to your employer and would (hopefully) indicate that it's a trait you would bring with you to your new one, but I guess a company could get shirty about it if they wanted, although probably not.

skap7309

Hmmm, i took voluntary redundancy to run my own business i set up at 24 and one memory i am left with is how goddam much some (not all i stress) 40+ people moan and slag everyone else off at work. Very glad to be out of there.

princeofpounds

I'm probably diving into this way too late, but anyone who criticises the generation below them (and hasn't it always been so?!) really should stop and reflect for a minute.

People from one generation to the next are born with more or less the same genetic inputs. They aren't any different in terms of raw material. They haven't all mutated into a lazy or alienated new species. The only significant difference is their environment and how they are brought up.

So if there is a problem with Generation Y then the people who should initially take a long hard look at themselves are their own parents who created the world they inhabit and shaped their personalities.

Now I happen to believe there is no intractable problem at all, so I don't think there was too much wrong with the parenting of the previous generation, but remarkable how willing people are to blame their own creations.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

princeofpounds wrote: »

They haven't all mutated into a lazy or alienated new species. .

:rotfl:

Are you sure? Can we send them all in for tests, just to confirm?

In all seriousness, you're right of course. I rather suspect every generation has similar issues with the previous ones. It always seems to work itself out.

Doom_and_Gloom

I don't think all of the generation I am in is lazy to be honest. My partner who is 23 has been working for the same company for over 5 years (nearly 6 years) at a place he hates but refuses to be jobless. He does look for a different job but hasn't been 'lucky' yet. However his current job, although not well paid, is rather secure so at least that's good. Before my mobility problems really set in I worked really hard. At one point I was doing full time education with a part time cleaning job while keeping the flat we were in clean/presentable and all of what a place entails; I was 18 then. My next job I worked as a temp in a factory that worked people so hard that some workers even fainted on the job!

The reason we worked so hard and why my partner still does is because we aspire to save a house deposit and one day own our own home. We believe in the sucurity that will give us later on.

I think Australia have it wrong if they are going to cast aside my generation due to their own skeptitism on what must be a based on the few. They will bring many problems upon themselves and I fear England is starting to do this. There will always be lazy people in any generation, I'm just not convinced that the one I'm in is as bad as being convayed by the older generations.

bernard_shaw

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

....the new selection "hell days" seem to be working. We extended our selection centre to 3 days. Made them inconvenient to get to for the candidates, opposite end of the country, short notice, etc. And now only spend half the time on competency and skill testing, and the other half of the time putting them in stressful situations where any answer they give will be wrong, just to test their personality, attitude, sense of entitlement and desire for the job.

Oh the machismo!

A pencilneck macho muscular management heaven! It sounds like your 'company' is a cover for some sort of special forces operation.

It's like that bit in 'The Right Stuff' when they get the candidate astronauts to run round the lab holding in an enema! Do you do that to your interviewees too?

Seriously, tho, it's a bit much to put people through just to recruit photocopier salesmen.