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BBC: Housing Shortages

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  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    edited 8 February 2010 at 2:09PM
    What? So you say that about bears not wanitng new builds. You get asked who this is. Tell me to calm down. And then quote something nothing to do with new builds to prove your point?

    In your head, not wanting new builds = saying "there is no shortage"?
    nice rant Graham - but he answered the question that you asked....

    here's exactly what he said
    Really2 wrote: »
    What I don'y get is why people classed as "bears" do not want new housing to be built to bring down house prices.
    Really2 wrote: »
    If I was looking to buy I would be saying we do need to build more houses.
    no mention of new builds from him just you trying to deflect the argument

    it really didn't fit into your viewpoint though hence your little rant... :T
  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    edited 8 February 2010 at 2:51PM
    What? So you say that about bears not wanitng new builds. You get asked who this is. Tell me to calm down. And then quote something nothing to do with new builds to prove your point?

    In your head, not wanting new builds = saying "there is no shortage"?

    I said we need more houses you are the one going on about "new-builds"

    You asked for an example, I provided one. Why the little rant?

    The point was people saying we did not need more housing and the people saying we don't need it are of "bearish" persuasion, is that observation that upsetting? I was just pointing out you would have thought it would have been the opposite that is all.

    But I suppose the rant avoids the other point I raised on easy credit.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    !!!!!! are you guys on.

    So talk of building more homes, is NOT talk about new houses?!

    You seem to have said osmething and are now chasing your tails.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    !!!!!! are you guys on.

    So talk of building more homes, is NOT talk about new houses?!

    You seem to have said osmething and are now chasing your tails.
    oh dear graham back to his old tricks...

    here's what you asked
    Which bear is this then?

    Any proof of what you are saying?
    you got the answer here
    Really2 wrote: »
    I have been on many threads that they do not believe there is any housing shortage at all because there a 1/2m empty and another 1/2m on right move.
    Originally Posted by macaque viewpost.gif
    As for the housing shortage, it doesn't exist.
    More information about the great housing myth can be found on the link below.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...6505&highlight=
    Your emotive argument is poor graham.
    you got the answer to your question but want to turn into something else because it doesn't suit your viewpoint...
    now jog on :)
  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    edited 8 February 2010 at 5:48PM
    !!!!!! are you guys on.

    So talk of building more homes, is NOT talk about new houses?!

    You seem to have said osmething and are now chasing your tails.

    Well dragged OT Graham I talk about building for HA's (and the building of other affordable housing that goes with it) and you still want to go on about.......?

    You were the one going on about them being to expensive to buy. (but is that the be all and end all of affordable housing)

    Shortage of housing / affordable housing is not just down to houses to buy.
    But I know the chances of logical debate with you are going to be near 0% graham.


    Could you tell me what you are upset about or what you are objecting about as nothing you have ranted about gives me any idea?

    Or better still discuss some of the point I raised rather than asking for proof who said what (even though I did supply it)
  • Emy1501
    Emy1501 Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    I'm yet to see any newbuilds in my area that are affordable. Most are at least 20% above what the equiv non newbuild is. Also gardens are tiny. Personally my opinion is there is no housing shortage just lots of speculation. If there was a shortage builder would build and buyers would buy.
  • adr0ck
    adr0ck Posts: 2,374 Forumite
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    Emy1501 wrote: »
    I'm yet to see any newbuilds in my area that are affordable. Most are at least 20% above what the equiv non newbuild is. Also gardens are tiny. Personally my opinion is there is no housing shortage just lots of speculation. If there was a shortage builder would build and buyers would buy.

    i would always expect to pay more for a new build compared to an equiv non new build because its new and therefore has a few benefits:

    has a warranty
    cheaper running costs
    no need to redecorate
    choose your own kitchen design
    don't need to worry about changing heating and electrical installation etc
    choose your own tiling to bath and kitchen

    etc
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