Weezl's phase 1- recipe testing and frugalisation- come one, come all!

homegrown_life

Re Calcium

just been looking on the vegetarian society webpage. Baked beans have a good amount, chickpeas and also some in french beans (is this what the green beans are? Not sure.) Anyway, no idea if enough in these to make a difference? Seems like Shirleys DS will be the main person needing it as he needs 1000mg per day.

It's so much trickier all this than you first think isn't it?

edit - seen you had updated your original post, shall have a better looky at that now....

System

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Apologies they are listed in post 1384, but edited out of post 1416. 2g calcium per 2kg dry chick peas.

Ah, sorry, I missed that. It's not much, though, is it? Are sesame seeds any use? They cost 88p for 150g at Ocado (don't know about Asda), so we might be able to add them to the list, stick a bagful into the cereal bars, and increase our non-soluble fibre at the same time? Or is that a straw too weak to grasp at?

homegrown_life

Firefox - if you need any volunteers to go through any of the shopping list to see the calcium of everything then just shout.

homegrown_life

my maths might be wrong, but looking at this site, seems that per 1kg of bread flour there is 1.1g calcium? Does that help the figures? I might be reading that all wrong though.

weezl74

...and just to help my tiredy brain, to clarify, our family need 3.6g daily and our shopping list contains how many so far?

So sorry about all this fire fox, I do really hope you're enjoying putting all your knowledge to our benefit:D:o

Fire_Fox

Thanks all for the ideas and support, keep them coming as it all adds in to vegetarian or vegan plans if not for Bob and Shirley.

I keep getting the feeling that I am trying to reinvent the wheel ... The fact is we only have 78 portions of dairy products which is 2.5 per day split between four people and they are supposed to have two to three per day each! This is not 124 as I previously wrote it's a minimum of 248. :eek:

To put it another way the family needs 3.2g calcium per day or 99g for a month, we currently have 37g so need another 62g. I cannot see how this can be done without animal sources or supplements. This can be found from any one of:

51 litres full fat milk = £32
15 x powdered milk (£1.69 = 4.3g) = £25
62 x 500g plain yogurt = £28
5.6 kilos Grana padano = £63 :eek:
8.8 kilos mature cheddar = £44
7.3 kilos half fat cheddar = £44
49 cans pilchards = £32

I really hope there is something wrong with my maths. Otherwise how much does a cow cost? What about porridge for breakfast a lot more often as Maltesers suggested? Saves on bread making, oats are higher in minerals and fibre than white flour and you can use powdered milk.

If you are willing to go the supplements route Asda sell Calcium and vitamin D tablets, 120 for just £2.53 - each tablet contains 0.4g calcium so a container is 48g calcium. That plus a moderate amount more dairy would hit the spot.

homegrown_life

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Weezl: Calcium is not going so well. The government recommends two to three portions of dairy per person per day, but I don't see a problem with using two portions and then making up the difference elsewhere. That means we need a minimum of [STRIKE]124[/STRIKE] 248 portions, but we only have 78 adult portions (200ml milk/ 30g cheese).

Using either the Asda website or http://www.nutritiondata.com/ I have calculated:
9 litres milk = 11g calcium
1kg cheddar = 7.2g
Six cans pilchards = 7.6g
30 medium eggs = 0.7g
2kg chick peas = 2g
12 x baked beans = 2268g beans = 1g
5kg porridge oats = 2.7g
3kg green beans = 1g
Error in quantity 21kg flour = 3.5g
Missed 12 oranges = 0.6g

Which is a total of 37g calcium. Plus some from water intake, depending if it's a hard or soft water area.

I make it, from the website I linked to above that the flour would give us 23.1g of calcium. Which would take us to 56.6g, a shortfall of 42g.

Other small sources in the list (i'll add back here once I work some more out) I'm using recipecal

beetroot - 80mg
onions - 3.52g (ok - sleep helped out with that one...)
carrots - 957mg
potatoes - 675mg
peanuts - 110mg
raisins - 2g
cauliflower - 396mg
peas - 1.8g
tinned toms - 1.68g
rice - 840mg
pasta - 360mg

Right that's my brain done in for a bit, shall be online till hubby has finished watching some rubbish film though. Feel free to pick apart my figs, I'm not sure I've worked it out right at all. Hope I have though!!

ifonlyitwaseasier

okies no idea on the calcium but me and OH will be up for a meet up with weezl et family, am going up to the museum next weekend for the OS one so will report back on anythign useful that i see (am also going to buy the book as i have some vouchers to use up )

Fire_Fox

homegrown_life wrote: »

my maths might be wrong, but looking at this site, seems that per 1kg of bread flour there is 1.1g calcium? Does that help the figures? I might be reading that all wrong though.

Thanks :T I had assumed the flour was not fortified with calcium as Asda website just lists the ingredients as wheat flour! Virtually all the websites seem to list the calcium content of white bread and not white flour. :mad: Apparently the lower end of the range is 0.9g per kilo which for 21kg of flour would add 19g calcium to our total, not to be sniffed at!

homegrown_life

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Thanks :T I had assumed the flour was not fortified with calcium as Asda website just lists the ingredients as wheat flour! Virtually all the websites seem to list the calcium content of white bread and not white flour. :mad: Apparently the lower end of the range is 0.9g per kilo which for 21kg of flour would add 19g calcium to our total, not to be sniffed at!

according to that site it's law to have it fortified, which is good news for us Might also mean that the pasta has more calcium, but prob very hard to check.

Lesley - hope you're feeling better soon!!

Might be up for a meet up too, although quite far. Shall think about it nearer the time