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Ticket from PPC

Fangg27
Posts: 35 Forumite
Hi,
I've just registered here as I would like some advice.
I rent a parking space in a car park of a residential block in Manchester city centre. I was given a permit to stick in my window and it has been there for months. On Friday evening I parked there and came back to the car on Saturday afternoon. Whilst I had been away the sticky side of the permit had come away from the windscreen and it had fallen to the floor of the passenger side. I also had received a ticket from a PPC, £75 for payment in 14 days and £100 after.
I sent them an email explaining the situation and asked if they would revoke the ticket as it was an accident that couldn't have been prevented. Today I received this reply:
Just to let you know, I at no point referred to this as an appeal, I always referred to this case as a dispute in my emails.
If anybody could offer me some advice I would be most grateful.
Thanks in advance.
I've just registered here as I would like some advice.
I rent a parking space in a car park of a residential block in Manchester city centre. I was given a permit to stick in my window and it has been there for months. On Friday evening I parked there and came back to the car on Saturday afternoon. Whilst I had been away the sticky side of the permit had come away from the windscreen and it had fallen to the floor of the passenger side. I also had received a ticket from a PPC, £75 for payment in 14 days and £100 after.
I sent them an email explaining the situation and asked if they would revoke the ticket as it was an accident that couldn't have been prevented. Today I received this reply:
Dear ******
This is the first response we have received from my email of the 1st February 2010.
In relation to your appeal for parking ticket No: ***** we are refusing the appeal. Regardless of whether the space is yours or not you have to display a permit at all times. We do not take note of which vehicles belong to which bay therefore it is your responsibility to display your permit correctly so the ticket attendant knows you are legally allowed to park there.
Furthermore, on reviewing the photographs of your vehicle there is no permit displayed on the dashboard or in the window. We take photographic evidence of all the cars we ticket as evidence and to avoid confusion at a later date. If you wish to review these photographs yourself, you may do so at an extra cost of £10.00
In cases where permits fall off, for example onto the driver’s seat, like most people’s claim to do, or down into the actual footwell, then we view this as a clear – ticketable offence, just like one would expect as a consequence in an NCP/public parking facility. If people choose to ignore this advice, then they should accept the consequences.
There is no excuse for not displaying a permit and all residents must accept full responsibility, otherwise face the consequences of being ticketed in such circumstances.
I suggest you take advantage of our discounted fee of £75.00 if you pay within 14 days of your appeal. If you fail to pay before 28 days it will be passed on to our ticket collection agency.
Regards
Just to let you know, I at no point referred to this as an appeal, I always referred to this case as a dispute in my emails.
If anybody could offer me some advice I would be most grateful.
Thanks in advance.
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Ignore all subsequent communication and read the sticky about PPCs.0
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Have a look in: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2214803 to see if the PPC you got a lovely piece of toilet paper from is one where someone has provided a letter chain of what type of letters you will get from the scamers
But ignore everything0 -
Thanks guys!
How likely are they to follow through with court proceedings? The car is registered in a relatives name and she is disabled and would panic if she saw letters like these so I don't want to get her upset.0 -
Which PPC is it?0
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Never heard of those particular scammers, but I would say if they were like the other companies the chances of them taking you to court to claim 'damages' is about as likely as you winning the lottery 2 draws in a row0
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Never heard of those particular scammers, but I would say if they were like the other companies the chances of them taking you to court to claim 'damages' is about as likely as you winning the lottery 2 draws in a row
Thanks agin, realistically how much could they try to claim from me if they did take me to court? Would l be looking at hundreds or just the original amount indicated on the ticket? Did I also make things more difficult for myself by emailing them? I didn't give them my full name or any other contact details in the email.
Sorry for being such a bother.0 -
Thanks guys!
How likely are they to follow through with court proceedings? The car is registered in a relatives name and she is disabled and would panic if she saw letters like these so I don't want to get her upset.
Realistic - Not at all likely.
However, they will get the keeper's details from the DVLA, so you will need to brief your relative that this is an unenforcable scam and that none of the threatening letters should be responded to - And they will get threatening, see the other sticky on PPC letters.
They will also rack it up to a large sum, probably several hundred - Which makes it all the more unenforcable as any contract fee must represent a realistic and provable loss.0 -
I've found a bin for you to put the letter in http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=22487150
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Realistic - Not at all likely.
However, they will get the keeper's details from the DVLA, so you will need to brief your relative that this is an unenforcable scam and that none of the threatening letters should be responded to - And they will get threatening, see the other sticky on PPC letters.
They will also rack it up to a large sum, probably several hundred - Which makes it all the more unenforcable as any contract fee must represent a realistic and provable loss.
I am worried because this relative will take these letters seriously no matter what I tell her. I'm considering paying just to save her the aggravation.0
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