Advice on sash windows

gmgmgm

Are you obliged to have double-glazing? It won't make that much of a difference to the warmth of your house. It's normally much more efficient to repair the window and fix any draughts.

SAVVYSHOPPER

sorry slightly off topic but does anybody know if it is possible to get old style leaded lights double glazed in such a way that it does not detract from the effect if you see what I mean - my hallway is flooded with all colours from the original leaded lights but they are very drafty and the other half wants to investigate getting them double glazed in some way but I can't see how
Any info would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

xxSS

juliecat

gmgmgm wrote: »

Are you obliged to have double-glazing? It won't make that much of a difference to the warmth of your house. It's normally much more efficient to repair the window and fix any draughts.

Is that right? In a previous house we got DG and it felt a lot warmer. Could be subjective of course, but definately felt that way.

chrisg1985

SAVVYSHOPPER wrote: »

sorry slightly off topic but does anybody know if it is possible to get old style leaded lights double glazed in such a way that it does not detract from the effect if you see what I mean - my hallway is flooded with all colours from the original leaded lights but they are very drafty and the other half wants to investigate getting them double glazed in some way but I can't see how
Any info would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

xxSS

Some sash window specialists will take the lead light from the sash and then make a double glazed unit and install back into the original sash. The skill is in not damaging the lead light when removing. I warn you in advance though - this is not a cheap job to take on!

chrisg1985

gmgmgm wrote: »

Are you obliged to have double-glazing? It won't make that much of a difference to the warmth of your house. It's normally much more efficient to repair the window and fix any draughts.

A draught proofing system will definetely be good even without double glazing. Double glazing will make a very noticeable difference to noise and condensation. I agree to an extent about the heating but still does impact - well based on what customers I have done in the past say anyhow!

gmgmgm

chrisg1985 wrote: »

A draught proofing system will definetely be good even without double glazing. Double glazing will make a very noticeable difference to noise and condensation. I agree to an extent about the heating but still does impact - well based on what customers I have done in the past say anyhow!

My point (probably not very well made!) was that it's a lot cheaper to spend an extra £50 per year on heating than £thousands on new windows. New windows are incredibly expensive and frequently impossible to justify on a cost/benefit basis.

chrisg1985, while you're clearly very experienced with sash windows, I'd disagree about condensation- while double glazing may make the problem not be so visible, it will still exist.

chrisg1985

gmgmgm wrote: »

My point (probably not very well made!) was that it's a lot cheaper to spend an extra £50 per year on heating than £thousands on new windows. New windows are incredibly expensive and frequently impossible to justify on a cost/benefit basis.

chrisg1985, while you're clearly very experienced with sash windows, I'd disagree about condensation- while double glazing may make the problem not be so visible, it will still exist.

Yes sorry I was not making reference to the condensation in the building just condensation forming on windows.

Cost/Benefit basis is far too open ended for me to comment. I have had customers in the past who have had all kinds of high spec glass with all different personal requirements which have run the cost above £3000.00 per window now. You will also find plenty of people who just have a good draught proofing system which meets thier requirements. I certainly would not spend this kind of money myself nor advocate it.

ormus

IMHO you would have to be seriously rich, or insane, to spend 3k per window.

leveller2911

ormus wrote: »

IMHO you would have to be seriously rich, or insane, to spend 3k per window.

Or want a good quality, well made, bespoke window that will outlast Upvc;)

Or even owning a Listed property which Listed planning officers won't allow a different design from the original.I replace many windows on Listed properties and many are owned by working class people will average earnings.Catch 22 a lot of the time.

benood

There are some other threads on this try a search. Here's one http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=776303

We had 30 sashes refurbished and draught proofed about 3 years ago and have benn really pleased with the result - it wasn't cheap (£150 per pair?) they were in poor condition, we didn't consider trying to double glaze them. I think the name of the guy we used was on the previous thread - he lived in Reading if that might be good for you he travelled to the Cotswolds for us so Harrow would have been fine - loads better value than ventrolla.