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Why Don't We Have US-Style Accommodation?

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  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    harryhound wrote: »
    That is exactly the decision you have to make (or possibly your children have to make) when you get disabled, physically and especially mentally, through old age and require "care". (If you have been foolish enough to build up capital into five figures).

    In the UK a senior is only obliged to spend their own money to provide care for themselves, once the money runs out the state pays for their continuing care. There is no burden on parents or children to pay for the care of their relatives unless they choose to do so.
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  • moggylover
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    harryhound wrote: »
    That is exactly the decision you have to make (or possibly your children have to make) when you get disabled, physically and especially mentally, through old age and require "care". (If you have been foolish enough to build up capital into five figures).


    But, whilst your children may have to sell YOUR home and spend YOUR capital on that care, they will not have to sell up their own home for that or because they give birth to a child with a disability;)
    "there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"
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  • moggylover
    moggylover Posts: 13,324 Forumite
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    In the UK a senior is only obliged to spend their own money to provide care for themselves, once the money runs out the state pays for their continuing care. There is no burden on parents or children to pay for the care of their relatives unless they choose to do so.


    You beat me to it FF!;) Is it great minds or the fools who seldom do you think?:)
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  • Fire_Fox
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    Bit of both? :p
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  • moggylover
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    Slightly OT (sorry PN) but I'm pretty sure that some people really only watch feel good films and programmes from the States and think that everyone has a swimming pool and three acres out there!:rotfl::rotfl:

    Some of the worst slums, most dogged poverty and worst crime rates in the so called "civilised" World! Ghettoes and Trailer Parks, Motels that are only really knocking shops! We have some of this in the UK - the Yanks really do do it bigger and better;)

    Their gun "laws" alone are enough to put me off!
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  • pelirocco
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    Or

    All that space
    Diverse landscapes/environments in different states
    Old fashioned courtesy and family values
    National pride
    Incredibly clean streets and highways
    A Police Force that isnt afraid to act instead of being a namby pamby bunch of social workers
    Reasonable property prices giving value for money instead of signing up to a crippling lifetime loan to live in a shoebox
    A willingness to give good service with a smile
    A can do attitude


    You have toured the whole of the US ? There are large parts that are in crippling poverty , and people living in little more then shanties .

    Reasonable property prices? , that will explain the large number of reposessions then

    Youve been watching too many TV programmes :rotfl:
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  • Fire_Fox
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    Please don't feed the trolls!!
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  • harryhound
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    moggylover wrote: »
    But, whilst your children may have to sell YOUR home and spend YOUR capital on that care, they will not have to sell up their own home for that or because they give birth to a child with a disability;)

    I agree there is no legal duty in the UK (unlike in Germany ?) to keep your parents but the state (Local authority) provision can be pretty dire (shared room doss house smelling of urine?) and the reality is that they probably have to move when their money runs out.

    Can we be forced to keep our brain damaged children on either side of the Atlantic?
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    harryhound wrote: »
    That is exactly the decision you have to make (or possibly your children have to make) when you get disabled, physically and especially mentally, through old age and require "care". (If you have been foolish enough to build up capital into five figures).
    harryhound wrote: »
    I agree there is no legal duty in the UK (unlike in Germany ?) to keep your parents but the state (Local authority) provision can be pretty dire (shared room doss house smelling of urine?) and the reality is that they probably have to move when their money runs out.

    Can we be forced to keep our brain damaged children on either side of the Atlantic?

    If local authority provision is as dire as you claim, you would hardly be foolish to build up capital into five figures so you can go private! :huh: Where are you getting your negative ideas from about state funded care homes, how many have you actually been in? There are a few dreadful places and there are many wonderful places, my parents will be going into a wonderful place when the time comes because I will devote as much time and effort to organising their care as they did for my grandmothers.
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  • I thought that people's homes having to be sold and all that was to finance PERSONAL care but that the NHS would provide HEALTH care from cradle to grave? What actually constitutes personal care I cannot say because I haven't needed to look into it
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