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Being forced to stay in work when ill
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PasturesNew wrote: »not used to telling people things and flouncing out.
I don't think advising management and leaving when ill can be characterised as 'flouncing out'.
Had OP yakked up all over the shop floor, I'm sure his/her manager would have expedited her/his departure.
On a personal level, I'm sorely irritated by people who drag their lurgy into the work place. Polite enough, as they may be, to cover their mouth and nose with their hand when they cough/sneeze - they then proceed to smear bits of whatever they have over communal surfaces. Bleurghhh! If you are sick - stay home. If you become sick at work - go home.
I think the culture of fear arising from ill health procedures has a lot to answer for. If a member of my team tells me he's sick and wants to go home, it's not for me to make a judgement or prevent him from doing so. We just deal with any issues at the return to work meeting.Opinion, advice and information are different things. Don't be surprised if you receive all 3 in response.0 -
I think people are being a bit unreasonable.
After all you are a junior member of staff, and people's level of assertiveness vary. Ok you are not very assertive, but you are not employed to be assertive, but to be fast, accurate and polite
You should go ahead with the grievance, but be aware that the manager could say she had given you the option (even if it's not true) and you decided to stay. Would you be able to prove she did not? (other people may know that, but may not be prepared to get involved).0 -
On a personal level, I'm sorely irritated by people who drag their lurgy into the work place. Polite enough, as they may be, to cover their mouth and nose with their hand when they cough/sneeze - they then proceed to smear bits of whatever they have over communal surfaces. Bleurghhh!
Not to mention the 'bits of whatever' they put on your change then give to you!_pale_0 -
Not to mention the 'bits of whatever' they put on your change then give to you!_pale_[/QUOTE]
Innit! Was forever putting money in my mouth as a child....explains a lot.Opinion, advice and information are different things. Don't be surprised if you receive all 3 in response.0 -
snapping_crocodile wrote: »I used to work on the checkouts in sainsburys and we weren't allowed to take drinks onto the checkout, hidden on not. As far as I am aware it's not illegal :cool:
the last js store i was at the staff were allowed to have a bottle of drink with them on the tills but the first store i was at i dont think we were allowed to have bottles with us, we were allowed to go and get a drink from the toilets though0 -
If you are sick, and off work next week with "swine flu" ;)they will be seriously regretting their actions.
I agree though that you shouldjust have said, sorry I am going home,and have asked someone to collect me.I realise that is easier said than done for some people though.:D
When you are better you need to ask for a meeting with the Manager and express your concerns that this happened.0 -
Couple of questions
1) How long have you worked for the company?
2) If you stay home ill do you get paid usual rate?
3) If you leave work ill does it count as a absence and whats the deal with pay?
Vader0 -
I understand what everybody has said, I agree that I should have been more assertive and told them I was leaving, but the question I originally asked still remains...is it legal to be kept in work against my own will, when feeling unable to work?
Nomatter what is said, I was denied the opportunity to leave, multiple times, by the manager.0 -
is it legal to be kept in work against my own will, when feeling unable to work?
See I dont think they did keep you against your will.
Only if you are imprisoned or held hostagec would this be the case.
You could have walked out. You were not kept there against your will. So I would stop calling it that. You could have simply put the "checkout closing" bar over, refused any more customers, walked away from the till and went to another manager and let them know. You could have legged it out of the door also. So not kept against your will.
What it was was that your manager refused to agree to an absence caused by sickness.
Depending how long youve been there, you could of course raise a greivance.:beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
This Ive come to know...
So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:0 -
I understand what everybody has said, I agree that I should have been more assertive and told them I was leaving, but the question I originally asked still remains...is it legal to be kept in work against my own will, when feeling unable to work?
Nomatter what is said, I was denied the opportunity to leave, multiple times, by the manager.
It is not legal to be kept ANYWHERE against your will (it is the crime of false imprisonment), but what you are alleging is something different, not being allowed to leave your post. There is nothing that could have been physically done to prevent you going, but if you had you may have committed a disciplinary "offence" within your terms and conditions of employment and be subject to sanction under those.0
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