I got sacked from my job today for gross misconduct can i claim jobseekers allowance

The_Mighty_Gusset

In any event you need to dispute the reason for dismissal.
Yes, throwing a fake sickie and lying about it is a disciplinary matter, but calling it Gross Misconduct and sacking you for it is an over-reaction.
Particularly if you 'came clean' and showed due contrition.
Also your previous exemplary record should have been taken into account.
Get some proper legal advice, appeal to a tribunal, and make sure you tell the benefits office that you are doing so.
If there's an ongoing dispute then you should get JSA pending the Tribunal decision.
If you are refused JSA then appeal that decision also.

unclekevin

Thanks for the advice 'Gus', i will take your advice in use it in my appeal.

starrystarry

The_Mighty_Gusset wrote: »

Yes, throwing a fake sickie and lying about it is a disciplinary matter, but calling it Gross Misconduct and sacking you for it is an over-reaction.

Of course it's gross misconduct. Not only did he lie about being sick but he said he'd been injured doing his job. That makes it a much more serious issue for the employer.

ceridwen

starrystarry wrote: »

Of course it's gross misconduct. Not only did he lie about being sick but he said he'd been injured doing his job. That makes it a much more serious issue for the employer.

I was wondering if any other poster would realise that there is a "world of difference" between being ill and having a work-related injury. Most employers would take one view about sickness and quite another about any work-related injury. There is a huge difference between the two.

Its certainly true that there are probably very few people who could say (hand on heart) that they have never ever taken a "sickie" BUT there really is an enormous difference between something like an "upset stomach" and a work-related injury.

Any employer with a bit of nous will possibly use a bit of "discretion" about the odd day or two of "throwing a sickie" over the course of many years working for them BUT its also the case that any employer would be likely to"throw the book" at anyone who falsely reported that they had a work-related injury - and I would agree with them doing so personally. I would sack anyone myself who lied about something like that - they would be out the door so fast their feet wouldnt hit the ground.

pinkshoes

You worked for a company for 12 years, only had TWO days off sick in a whole 12 years, and they sack you for pulling a sickie?!?!

I'd say it could be a blessing in disguise and time to find an employer who likes having staff with such impeccable sickness records! If I were your boss, I would have let it go, and just taken a days pay from your salary.

Apolonation

What do I tell the Jobcentre ...

DVardysShadow wrote: »

The truth. You do not have a good track record at telling lies.

Sorry but this made me laugh out loud.

ceridwen

Apolonation wrote: »

What do I tell the Jobcentre ...



Sorry but this made me laugh out loud.

Well...you werent the only one....

it was just the totally "deadpan" way in which DVardy said it.....

starrystarry

pinkshoes wrote: »

You worked for a company for 12 years, only had TWO days off sick in a whole 12 years, and they sack you for pulling a sickie?!?!

I'd say it could be a blessing in disguise and time to find an employer who likes having staff with such impeccable sickness records! If I were your boss, I would have let it go, and just taken a days pay from your salary.

Do you not think that claiming he was injured at work makes things far more serious than pulling a bog-standard sickie?

The_Mighty_Gusset

starrystarry wrote: »

Of course it's gross misconduct. Not only did he lie about being sick but he said he'd been injured doing his job. That makes it a much more serious issue for the employer.

Well, I'd agree with you there if he was making a claim for damages - but from the tone of his post it looks like he just picked a random reason for throwing a sickie without thinking things through.
"I've got a bad back" is an age old standard excuse.
He'd have been better off claiming an attack of the squits and blaming a dodgy takeaway.

All kinds of people keep their jobs for committing far worse offences - this really is only deserving of a verbal warning - a written one if you want to be really harsh.

terra_ferma

The_Mighty_Gusset wrote: »

Well, I'd agree with you there if he was making a claim for damages - but from the tone of his post it looks like he just picked a random reason for throwing a sickie without thinking things through.
"I've got a bad back" is an age old standard excuse.
He'd have been better off claiming an attack of the squits and blaming a dodgy takeaway.

How would the employers know that he was not intending to do so?
I doubt they can read his mind...