PCN appeal failure. Can I appeal again?

Azimuth99

Thanks Coupon-mad.

If you say so, but I just have a hard time believing the signs are unlawul. To quote from PePiPoo

The taxi rank signage is not prescribed within the TSRGD 2002. It is highly unlikely the council has been given authority to use those signs as there is no need to deviate from the taxi signage that the TSRGD 2002 does prescribe. In your next appeal advise the council that the taxi rank signage is unlawful as it is neither prescribed nor authorised as required by section 64 of the RTRA 1984.

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Just got around to looking at the photos the upright signs are not a parking 'restriction' they are to indicate where taxis may ply for trade you have a 99.99% chance of winning this if you appeal properly.

I'm sure these chaps are 'spot-on' with their analysis (and I have a lot of respect for them), but for a two brain cell drone like me, it seems too good to be true. I'm still wading through the TSRGD 2002 (not a very good plot. Characters are a bit mundane). It's hard to know how to argue whe you're not an expert. :rotfl:

Still, onwards and upwards.

Azimuth99

peter_the_piper

They will help you all you need. Always [ut a draft appeal onsite and they will advise.

Coupon-mad

Pepipoo posters know what they are talking about and they get the majority of posters off their PCNs on technicalities like these.

It's a really common appeal, LOTS of signs and lines are wrong all over the Country. Whenever I visit my local city centre, almost every parking bay I see is non-compliant, and the Council has done nothing about it for years. I never knew this until I got to reading about bays/lines and signs on pepipoo threads, regular posters begin to see a pattern and can spot some errors easily now.

If you have time then read a few other threads on there, you'll see they normally find a get-out clause. Or read some of the successes reported on the sticky thread at the top of their parking/decriminalised notices forum.

The Council won't want to test a dodgy sign and dodgy taxi rank with the adjudicator, as it could render hundreds of other PCNs unenforceable as well. So they'll probably string you along with refusals in the hope you'll give up, and then fold. Stay determined to see it through I reckon.

The most you'd be ordered to pay if you lost with the adjudicator would be the undiscounted ticket cost so it's worth contesting almost any Council PCN if you can, I know I would in future.