Wiring Gas Meter

I live in a Victorian maisonette ground floor and yesterday came back home to see a yellow earth wire attached to the wall with cable clips running along the front of the house and into the gas meter box.

No one around the area seem to have this type of connection and by doing a bit of research i understand that the earth bond can be made "as near as practicable to the point of entry of that service into the premises".

How can i play this with the upstairs landlord based on:

-The wire is exposed and don't think it meets regulations
-Point of entry inside the premises needs to be considered
-The front look of the property have been compromised

Please help
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  • withabix
    withabix Posts: 9,508 Forumite
    edited 19 January 2010 at 1:50PM
    The wire isn't exposed, it's in a yellow sheath. Earth wires/straps can be sheathed or bare. Some earth bonds are deliberately left bare. It's sheated 'yellow' to identify it and therefore to comply with electrical regs.

    What's the other end of the earth wire connected to?

    Does the gas pipe run from the meter around the outside of the property before entering the building?

    The front look of the property has been compromised...you are taking the mick here, obviously???
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  • SailorSam
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    I think as the regulations get tighter for safety reasons they put more earth leads to things now. When we had the house rewired a few years ago the electricians put short earth wires onto a couple of the radiators, as well as the gas meter which weren't there before.
    If you're really bothered that much on the appearance couldn't you just paint it black or perhaps put some sleeving over it.
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  • panchis
    panchis Posts: 34 Forumite
    withabix... i appreciate your response but you know what i mean when i refer to the "exposed cable", I'm looking for an alternative to the untidy wiring done at my property.

    You know what i mean when i refer to the "exposed cable", the whole matter is that according to current regulations "any bonding connections to any gas, water or other services should be made as near as practicable to the point of entry of that service into the premises"

    I'm looking for advise or a way to find an alternative route for this connection, as far as know the bonding does NOT have to be at the meter.
  • System
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    Maybe it was the case that the electrician who did this considered that connecting to the meter and then running the cable along the front of the house was the most practical solution. Where does the other end connect to the electrical earth point?
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  • panchis
    panchis Posts: 34 Forumite
    The cable comes from the upstairs flat and down inside the meter box, end of cable is connected to the bonding attached to the pipe on the customer's side.
  • capita_guy
    capita_guy Posts: 90 Forumite
    edited 19 January 2010 at 2:35PM
    panchis wrote: »
    I live in a Victorian maisonette ground floor and yesterday came back home to see a yellow earth wire attached to the wall with cable clips running along the front of the house and into the gas meter box.

    No one around the area seem to have this type of connection and by doing a bit of research i understand that the earth bond can be made "as near as practicable to the point of entry of that service into the premises".

    How can i play this with the upstairs landlord based on:

    -The wire is exposed and don't think it meets regulations
    -Point of entry inside the premises needs to be considered
    -The front look of the property have been compromised

    Please help

    Sorry this meets all requirements. Gas Safe say bonding must be within 600mm of meter. I had a Gas Safe inspection last week and was told the above.
  • panchis
    panchis Posts: 34 Forumite
    Dear All... I'm not disputing the compliance and legality of the installation.

    My problem is that now i have a 10mm yellow cable running across the front of my house and it's in a area where we try to make our properties as tidy as possible... nothing wrong with that!

    Regulation says that if meter is internal then connection should be made within 600mm from meter.

    If external meter then connection at nearest point of entry.

    My question again how to approach my neighbour to change the connection when there other approved alternatives
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    panchis wrote: »
    Dear All... I'm not disputing the compliance and legality of the installation.

    My problem is that now i have a 10mm yellow cable running across the front of my house and it's in a area where we try to make our properties as tidy as possible... nothing wrong with that!

    Regulation says that if meter is internal then connection should be made within 600mm from meter.

    If external meter then connection at nearest point of entry.

    My question again how to approach my neighbour to change the connection when there other approved alternatives
    Please but I really don't like the way your contractor has attached your cable to my wall. Is there any chance of getting it moved to a less conspicuous position please?

    Cheers
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  • Basil1234
    Basil1234 Posts: 1,146 Forumite
    How can i play this with the upstairs landlord based

    My question again how to approach my neighbour to change the connection when there other approved alternatives

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    well based on the 2 above statements im presuming you are both in rented properties? if so the landlord has pay someone to come out and fit said earth bond and has a certificate for wiring so if that is the case you can't just move it! the only way to change it would be for sparks come out and change it and re-certificate as is to do with insurance etc, so unless you would with the other neighbour be willing to pay for the change yourself and get the landlords agreement(it his property changing!) you will be knackered.
    The only other thing you can do really is get out can of paint and paint it same colour as the wall but even that is a bit naughty but your only real option. as the landlord isn't going to pay out twice unless you can get him to see the work is sub standard and get the person back to put it right.
  • panchis
    panchis Posts: 34 Forumite
    Thank you all... i understand some of you might be electricians and the most practical way is the best approach.

    Also understand that for many of you Time = Money but for us clients it has to look good. in this situation, noone gave monkeys on the effect this might have in a future sale.

    Thanks again
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