Tv licence summons,i want to plead not guily

biscit

glider3560 wrote: »

I'd be getting another solicitor if I were you. You DO NOT need a licence to be in possession of TV receiving equipment. You DO need a licence to watch TV.

See here: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/what-if-a-tv-licence-is-not-needed-top12/ where it says

I think this is not a case of legality. Legally you don't need to do that, but practically it's an easy way to prove the TV is not being used.

ckerrd

biscit wrote: »

I think this is not a case of legality. Legally you don't need to do that, but practically it's an easy way to prove the TV is not being used.

Not very money saving though is it?
Spend money on something you have no requirement for.

Practically you just tell them nothing and if they turn up at your door - tell them to f*** off.

Now that is much more money saving;)

Swan_2

ckerrd wrote: »

Not very money saving though is it?
Spend money on something you have no requirement for.

hmmmmmmm ... :think: :think: :think: :think: :think:

stevemLS

boliston wrote: »

The trouble is that this is not just like getting a speeding ticket - a TV licence fine means you will have a CRIMINAL RECORD which will need to be declared on job applications and a host of other forms.

It is exactly the same thing - a speeding ticket is a criminal conviction which is dealt with by way of fixed penalty.

Most employers, sensibly, pay little attention to FP offences, and indeed should only take other offences into account when they are relevant to the job applied for.

Cool_Username

stevemLS wrote: »

It is exactly the same thing - a speeding ticket is a criminal conviction which is dealt with by way of fixed penalty.

Most employers, sensibly, pay little attention to FP offences, and indeed should only take other offences into account when they are relevant to the job applied for.

Although I wouldn't go applying for a job as a TV licencing officer any time soon!

biscit

stevemLS wrote: »

It is exactly the same thing - a speeding ticket is a criminal conviction which is dealt with by way of fixed penalty.

Most employers, sensibly, pay little attention to FP offences, and indeed should only take other offences into account when they are relevant to the job applied for.

True. 99.9%

I think, though, if your job involves driving they may take into account motoring penalties. And if it involves bookkeeping or responsibility for budgets- they may take a fp relating to not paying your own bills as evidence against your attention to detail.

Also- while the penalty notices are generally not taken seriously- don't court appearances get treated differently? (Genuine question) You get the criminal record for non-payment of fine?

biscit

ckerrd wrote: »

Not very money saving though is it?
Spend money on something you have no requirement for.

Practically you just tell them nothing and if they turn up at your door - tell them to f*** off.

Now that is much more money saving;)

True, but sometimes you have to balance out practicality and convenience with money saving.

Not all of us have the sort of nature where we can tell anyone "to f*** off", let alone the cahonies to do it to someone with even limited authority.

ckerrd

biscit wrote: »

True, but sometimes you have to balance out practicality and convenience with money saving.

Not all of us have the sort of nature where we can tell anyone "to f*** off", let alone the cahonies to do it to someone with even limited authority.

If you are speaking about the TVL people then they have not got "limited" authority - they have none.

esseesee

biscit wrote: »

Not all of us have the sort of nature where we can tell anyone "to f*** off", let alone the cahonies to do it to someone with even limited authority.

TVL salesman have about as much authority as an Avon lady - and are usually rather less welcome in the community. FWIW, I've never seen a report of an Avon lady physically attacking her customers, but I have seen a report of a TVL salesman attacking one of his customers ...

There is no need to tell them to f*** off; just saying 'I want you to leave now' should - according to their own code of practice - ensure they do so.

biscit

esseesee wrote: »

TVL salesman have about as much authority as an Avon lady - and are usually rather less welcome in the community. FWIW, I've never seen a report of an Avon lady physically attacking her customers, but I have seen a report of a TVL salesman attacking one of his customers ...

There is no need to tell them to f*** off; just saying 'I want you to leave now' should - according to their own code of practice - ensure they do so.

Thing is we have a TV and we watch it, therefore we have a TV license. If we stop watching TV we will stop the license and then we may have problems.

We had problems with TV licensing when my wife moved in with me, but still owned her own property. It was an example of a system where the process was designed to eliminate the need for training of the staff. When someone fell outside the process, it became difficult for all sides.

Thing was we have never encountered an enforcement officer.