A question to all you tenants

mickybro

I am a landlord and I am legally entitled to enter a property by giving 48 hours written notice so that the tenant can be there if they wish.
A landlord should always have a set of keys for a property! he owns it
Two sets of keys should be given to the tenant and they should pay for a new set if lost.
It is also illegal for a tenant to change the locks and deny the landlord his writes.

PasturesNew

clutton wrote: »

:rotfl:PN - i have not laughed so much at a post on here as this one of yours !!!!

it reminds me of myself a few years back.. and how being organised and tidy was the last thing on my mind at that time.....

long may your busy and interesting life continue !!!

It's not like that now, but it used to be ... along with a whole pile of study books and notes spread out on the floor or table as there's no point putting them away if you live alone are are out at work all day.

I did used to come in from work each day though and rip off my tights/knickers and chuck them onto the chair ready for the laundry - except sometimes they didn't quite reach and it wouldn't matter they were on the floor. . . until I came home one day to find my door wide open and a man glossing the door merrily.

clutton_2

micykbro says

""I am a landlord and I am legally entitled to enter a property by giving 48 hours written notice so that the tenant can be there if they wish. ""

NO you are not - if a tenant says you cannot come in... you cannot go in... Tenants have a legal right of "Quiet Enjoyment" - which means just that...



""It is also illegal for a tenant to change the locks and deny the landlord his writes."

NO its not illegal for a tenant to change locks ... if you the LL let yourself in without their permission you could be charged with Harrassment

i suggest you join National Landlords ASsociation or buy TessaShepperson/s book "Renting - Essential Guide to Tenants Rights" and learn the truth....

sequence

mickybro wrote: »

I am a landlord and I am legally entitled to enter a property by giving 48 hours written notice so that the tenant can be there if they wish.
A landlord should always have a set of keys for a property! he owns it
Two sets of keys should be given to the tenant and they should pay for a new set if lost.
It is also illegal for a tenant to change the locks and deny the landlord his writes.

:rotfl:

If this doesn't answer the OP's question of why so many tenants are difficult then nothing will!!!

Must be a troll to be that stupid though, surely ?

clutton_2

""why so many tenants are difficult " - not true

the vast majority of tenants are absolutely fine - ordinary decent folk, wanting a decent home, behaving normally, and getting on with their lives... ..

its just that we only ever get stories of the small minority of problem tenancies on here....

RobertoMoir

clutton wrote: »

""why so many tenants are difficult " - not true

the vast majority of tenants are absolutely fine - ordinary decent folk, wanting a decent home, behaving normally, and getting on with their lives... ..

its just that we only ever get stories of the small minority of problem tenancies on here....

I made that last point earlier too and it went over the OP's head I think. I reckon they had already made their mind up and were simply seeking justification for it based on an apparent unwillingness to take on any of the points raised here. Still, its their house, no one else's business if they choose not to rent it out.

Maybe mickybro's post will clue them in as to why some tenants are rather sticky over their rights after dealing with poor LLs in the past.

Vampgirl

Milliewilly wrote: »

So you tenants in rented accomodation - did the house go up for sale whilst you were already in situ? If so then I can understand your concerns. If though the house was on the market when you accepted the tenancy why all the fuss when an agent rings and asks for a viewing?

I have been a tenant where the place I was renting was put up for sale...I was intending leaving anyway so it wasn't an issue for me and I agreed to viewings (with notice and at a convenient time). However, in reality the agency usually only gave me a few hours notice - usually calling in the morning when I was at work saying that they were taking someone round that afternoon. I couldn't stop them as they had keys...I was prepared to be accomodating and flexible, but they just took advantage. The last straw was when having told me they were taking someone round at 3pm they then turned up and let themselves in at about 6pm - I was in the process of getting changed ready to go out for the evening and it was rather embarassing to be walked in on! Their excuse? They were running a little late :mad: After this I started to be a little more wary and less co-operative.

The second thing I would say is that whenever I'm looking for a place to rent I keep an eye on the sales market...if a house is up for rent and sale at the same time I won't even view. Often it means that owners are having money issues and it also points to amateur landlords who may not be aware of their obligations and my rights - they also may not have permission to let from their lender. Also there is the issue of disruption...I would not want to move in somewhere then in 6 months or a year be asked to leave because they were selling the house. I think if you went ahead with this plan then you would have to make it very clear that this was short term only.

moneysavinmonkey

we're in the process of buying a property which the owner rented out after they had put it up for sale so I hope my point of view is helpful...

It took us nearly 2 weeks to organise the first viewing as the tenants firstly did not return the agents calls and then could not agree a suitable date/time.
The second viewing also took 1 week to organise.

In that time we viewed another 8 properties and found another we liked which we also put an offer on... the other offer was rejected but if it had not been then the delay caused by the tenants would have lost the owner a sale.

The property was photographed as the owners home and had a warm family feel, but when we viewed (although I have to say the tenants kept the place very clean + tidy) it already looked a little shabby and the mismatched furniture, empty spaces where appliances had been taken away and holes in carpets where wardrobes were removed definitely took a lot of the shine off for me.

The tenants also did an excellent job of pointing all the maintenance jobs that needed doing, e.g. damp around bay window, leaking garage etc - was really great to get an honest insight into living in the property from our point of view!!

As tenants ourselves we had a great deal of sympathy for the tenants and did feel very uncomfortable during our viewings (they were present) and did even question whether we wanted to put in an offer as we felt bad about getting them kicked out.

Finally when we came to put our offer in, we took into consideration that the the property wasn't technically 'vacant possession' and allowed for extra costs in our solicitor checking tenants agreements + possible complications if the tenants didn't move out when given notice (which they don't legally have to do immediately) We knocked about 2% off the price in our heads for this.

Finally it is also worth noting that the property in question has been on the market for nearly 2 years which I would guess in part was due to the above!

property.advert

I once had a flood in my property and had to move out into temporary accommodation. I managed to get the owner of a flat in the same block who had his property up for sale to agree to a short term but flexible let. I paid over the odds but that was my decision.

There were a few viewings and it was eventually bought as a buy to let by an investor with me as a sitting tenant. I left and another tenant was sought.

The agents handling the sale were the managing agents of the development and I was a director of the management company so things were a little different. I cannot remember whether I allowed them to show the flat when I was out but I do know that it was stipulated in the contract that as the property was up for sale, I was required to help with scheduling appointments. It was all very professional and I had no problems in complying.

I could imagine it might have been so different but I wasn't dealing with Rigsby etc.

Mankysteve

My last house the landlord decided to sell up (he never did sell) but we had no problems with teh letting agency they would always phone up at least 24 hours in advanced usually at least 48. As long as you make it clear to your estate agents that at least 48 hours notice should b given you and your tenants should get along just fine.