Future job fund / young person guarantee

wontfallforit

Anihilator wrote: »

I'd question whether the whole living arrangement/HB thing is even legal.

That's what I suspected, hence asking what daughter is currently claiming. I was always under the impression that you can't claim HB under a parental roof. But that's just an impression, not something I've ever actually researched, or looked into different levels of circumstance/complexity for.

Anihilator

wontfallforit wrote: »

That's what I suspected, hence asking what daughter is currently claiming. I was always under the impression that you can't claim HB under a parental roof. But that's just an impression, not something I've ever actually researched, or looked into different levels of circumstance/complexity for.

I certainly suspect similar.

I reckon theres an aspect of misrepresentation going on here which is why the benefits for the daughter are so high.

£500 for a single 21 year old living with a parent is ridicolously high. I assume there is no children given its not mentioned.

I'd expect it to be the standard JSA and possibly some council tax relief.

Anihilator

Housing Benefit

You can claim Housing Benefit to help pay for your rent if your income and savings are below a certain level. If you're single and aged under 25 you can only get Housing Benefit for bed-sit accommodation or a room in shared accommodation. You cannot get Housing Benefit if you're living with your parents or other close relatives and paying rent to them.

Confirmed from DWP site. The OP and her daughter are obviously defrauding the benefit agency by stating its a house share and not declaring the relationship

Anihilator

JSA wise she is entitled to £50.95 a week it appears.

GalaxyChocolate_2

Excuse me it is all very legal.....myself and my daughter both went too the housing benefit place too fill in the forms. No matter what relation we are we are house sharing because we both pay half of everything. The benefit departments have been out and seen us both at the house as thats what they do too check everything legal and it was all fine.

wontfallforit

Anihilator wrote: »

Housing Benefit

You can claim Housing Benefit to help pay for your rent if your income and savings are below a certain level. If you're single and aged under 25 you can only get Housing Benefit for bed-sit accommodation or a room in shared accommodation. You cannot get Housing Benefit if you're living with your parents or other close relatives and paying rent to them.

Confirmed from DWP site. The OP and her daughter are obviously defrauding the benefit agency by stating its a house share and not declaring the relationship

As I thought.

However, one thing...when I was under 25, I was not living in shared accommodation/bedsit. Rather, I had a 1-bed housing association flat, with the tenancy held in my sole name. Yet I still claimed HB successfully, and without question. I had no 'exceptional' circumstances, and was entirely truthful in my claim.

My case may have differed because I was paying full rent at the time I moved in. The HB came later. I suppose the council couldn't feasibly see me evicted, re-homed in a share/bedsit, only to pay me anyway

Thank God that's all over. I hated being on HB so much (not so much 'shame', but the bureaucracy, and the irregularity of benefit reviews), that it got to the point where I'd beg, borrow, steal (:)) any available overtime at work, and just "ride out" the bad weeks when I only got to work my 25 contracted hours.

wontfallforit

GalaxyChocolate wrote: »

Excuse me it is all very legal.....myself and my daughter both went too the housing benefit place too fill in the forms. No matter what relation we are we are house sharing because we both pay half of everything. The benefit departments have been out and seen us both at the house as thats what they do too check everything legal and it was all fine.

Not doubting you GalaxyChocolate, your own circumstances are private, but, did you explicitly state that you're parent and daughter?

If your daughter has managed to claim HB so far - legit, let's hope - there doesn't seem to be any compelling reason why she can't continue to claim some rent relief whilst she's on this placement. Hence the question: who told her she wouldn't be able to claim?

GalaxyChocolate_2

Yes we have the same surnames and everything on our forms it also says mother and daughter. I actually rung up before hand too see if she was intitled too anything at all as i was like all of you and expected it to be against the law but they said no it was fine as she was on the tenacy agreement and paying the rent....so they said that was different because she is renting the house in her name not just mine alone.

The jobcentre advisor from what i know had told her that once she started at the placement all benefits would be stopped.

Anihilator

GalaxyChocolate wrote: »

They know loud and clear. So please dont give me abuse over a forum please. I would be the last too do benefit fraud!

Yet you appear to be almost certain to be as a 21 YO single person living with a parent shouldnt possibly qualify for more than £500 a month benefit.

GalaxyChocolate_2

For a start she is 20 year olds and secondly SHE RENTS THE PROPERTY IN HER NAME its a different story!!!