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Being refused dla When i have chrones disease

back in august 2009 i applied for dla after being diagnosed with chrones disease! in early novemeber i had my decision letter which said i was not entitled to the benifit! When applying i gave them conultant reports gp reports and medication boxes and it was still refused! what do i need to do in the appeal as surely they cant decline me when i am on morphine at times due to the pain! also i have sever depression and they give me £74 a week and expect me to live on that!

I CANT BELIEVE THEY HAVE DELINED MY DLA APPLICATION EVEN THOUGH I HAVE CHRONES!

HELP HELP HELP:confused::confused::confused::confused:

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  • dmg24
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    DLA is awarded based on care and mobility needs, not the condition itself. Chrones is a variable condition, not everyone has additional needs as a result of it.

    Did you have help with your forms?
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  • josh1010 wrote: »
    back in august 2009 i applied for dla after being diagnosed with chrones disease! in early novemeber i had my decision letter which said i was not entitled to the benifit! When applying i gave them conultant reports gp reports and medication boxes and it was still refused! what do i need to do in the appeal as surely they cant decline me when i am on morphine at times due to the pain! also i have sever depression and they give me £74 a week and expect me to live on that!

    I CANT BELIEVE THEY HAVE DELINED MY DLA APPLICATION EVEN THOUGH I HAVE CHRONES!

    HELP HELP HELP:confused::confused::confused::confused:
    I think the key to this is on morphine"at times",that could be every other day or once a year,and as dmg rightly says dla is for care and or mobility needs not a condition.
    The thing to do now is get help with your appeal,welfare rights or cab may do this with you.
    good luck
  • dmg24
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    woodbine wrote: »
    I think the key to this is on morphine"at times",that could be every other day or once a year,and as dmg rightly says dla is for care and or mobility needs not a condition.
    The thing to do now is get help with your appeal,welfare rights or cab may do this with you.
    good luck

    The OP would need to make a fresh application, as the decision was made in early November.
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  • SailorSam
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    These are the questions that are used to decide if you entitled to Dla, answer honestly and see if you think a mistake has been made.
    How the DSS decides claims for Disability Living Allowance
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  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    edited 14 January 2010 at 1:07AM
    josh1010 wrote: »
    back in august 2009 i applied for dla after being diagnosed with chrones disease! in early novemeber i had my decision letter which said i was not entitled to the benifit! When applying i gave them conultant reports gp reports and medication boxes and it was still refused! what do i need to do in the appeal as surely they cant decline me when i am on morphine at times due to the pain! also i have sever depression and they give me £74 a week and expect me to live on that!

    I CANT BELIEVE THEY HAVE DELINED MY DLA APPLICATION EVEN THOUGH I HAVE CHRONES!

    HELP HELP HELP:confused::confused::confused::confused:
    £74 a week?

    I take it you are living with family friends then and are not in receipt of Housing Costs (Either Mortgage costs or Housing Benefit/Local Housing Allowance)? If you do receive help with housing costs then you are getting more than £74 a week. In addition, if you are on an income related benefit (Such as ESA(IR) or JSA(IB) or Income Support) then you are entitled to a wealth of things at a reduced price and a number of things at no cost at all.

    As others have already pointed out, DLA is about the help you need due to either care or mobility reasons, you cant just apply because you have a condition of some sort but are able to cope perrfectly well most of the time.
  • Lou76
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    edited 14 January 2010 at 1:25AM
    Hi Josh, may I start by saying you have my deepest sympathy?

    Like you, I too suffer (and I mean suffer :mad: ) from the dreaded Crohns - to date I've suffered; a broken toe, broken ribs, concussion, numerous bruises and bumps all in the name of "a mad dash to the nearest lav". Nevermind the embarrasment of not getting there on time. :o If I wasn't doped up to the eyeballs on Loperamide (even that doesn't work all of the time - ooops), anytime I have to leave the flat, I wouldn't even get so far as the Drs surgery - how ironic would that be? :D

    However, and I may be wrong so don't take my word for it, I can't see how Crohns alone would affect your mobility or care needs? If you were suffering the [thankfully rare] side effects of athritis, for example, then I could see how your mobility and/or care needs could be an issue.

    As it is, although classed as a chronic condition, Chrons shouldn't affect either of those areas in your life - I appreciate I could be wrong and will gladly stand corrected, I can only go by personal experience.

    I would actually go so far as to say that having no mobility issues would be a bonus for a Crohns sufferer, one which I'd gladly accept. ;) Without my mobility [and other health related] issues I'm pretty sure I could set a new World Record in 10m sprint [ from bed to the bathroom]. :rotfl:

    As I said, this is all my own opinion and I could be wrong, I usually am :p, so it might be worth asking your GP etc for their advice.

    ETA: Either way, I hope you find the medication that allows you to live as 'normal' a life as possible, I'm still praying for the day that bowel transplants are freely available. lol
  • Indie_Kid
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    josh1010 wrote: »
    surely they cant decline me when i am on morphine at times due to the pain!

    I am in constant pain due to bowel problems and don't get dla for that. (and no, I'm not on anything - the last medication I was given to treat something, has caused bladder problems)
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  • bestpud
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    Lou76 wrote: »
    Hi Josh, may I start by saying you have my deepest sympathy?

    Like you, I too suffer (and I mean suffer :mad: ) from the dreaded Crohns - to date I've suffered; a broken toe, broken ribs, concussion, numerous bruises and bumps all in the name of "a mad dash to the nearest lav". Nevermind the embarrasment of not getting there on time. :o If I wasn't doped up to the eyeballs on Loperamide (even that doesn't work all of the time - ooops), anytime I have to leave the flat, I wouldn't even get so far as the Drs surgery - how ironic would that be? :D

    However, and I may be wrong so don't take my word for it, I can't see how Crohns alone would affect your mobility or care needs? If you were suffering the [thankfully rare] side effects of athritis, for example, then I could see how your mobility and/or care needs could be an issue.

    As it is, although classed as a chronic condition, Chrons shouldn't affect either of those areas in your life - I appreciate I could be wrong and will gladly stand corrected, I can only go by personal experience.

    I would actually go so far as to say that having no mobility issues would be a bonus for a Crohns sufferer, one which I'd gladly accept. ;) Without my mobility [and other health related] issues I'm pretty sure I could set a new World Record in 10m sprint [ from bed to the bathroom]. :rotfl:

    As I said, this is all my own opinion and I could be wrong, I usually am :p, so it might be worth asking your GP etc for their advice.

    ETA: Either way, I hope you find the medication that allows you to live as 'normal' a life as possible, I'm still praying for the day that bowel transplants are freely available. lol

    I see your point but mobility needs aren't just about ability to walk/run etc.

    I'm not completely aware of the ins and outs but I'm sure it covers things like not being able to go far from a toilet, or needing to use transport rather than walking as it is quicker.

    Basically anything that restricts ones ability to go about their daily business as a 'normal' person would.

    As far as I am aware, having to make several short trips to the shop rather than one long one counts as a mobility issue iyswim?
  • Hi Josh,

    Im sorry you have Chrones. My son has Ulcerative colitis, and has had it since he was 8 (he is now 15) At one point he was on 16 tablets a day, and I had to administer foam enemas twice a day. I applied for DLA on his behalf, and had help with filling the form out. He was still declined. I then went to the CAB to help with my appeal. I was told by them that there was no way we would get DLA for his condition, no matter how bad some days were. After the CAB lady spoke to my son (he was 9yrs old) she agreed to try and help us, and even attended the tribunal with us which is rare for them to do. My son was eventually awarded the lowest rate possible which was set for 3 years, and i think largely based on my arguement that at 9 he could not administer his own enemas.....whereas if he still needed them at 12 I am sure he would try. His claim is over now, and touch wood his condition has improved. The only advice i can give is contact the CAB....and keep fighting, and emphasise any outside help you need. All the best,..and i hope your conditions ease.

    Spangles
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