Removal of supporting wall from tenement flat

craigj

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craigj

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keystone

craigj wrote: »

a. Engineering-wise, how feasible is this?

Everything is feasible. Your structural engineer (whom you are employing of course) will tell you exactly what you need to do to maintain the structural integrity of the building. You can't just knock supporting walls down but you know that.

b. How much should I expect to pay including labour? Please give me a 'guestimate'

How long is a piece of string? OK then anywhere between £2k and £ 30k.

c. Are there any reasons that I would be refused planning permission for this?

None at all as unless it falls within the PP criteria (listed building, conservation area etc etc etc) you don't need it. You WILL need Building Regs for it though.

Copy of floorplan is at: img687.imageshack.us/img687/2755/floorplan.png

Thanks - yes it does work but sorry it isn't any real help in answering your questions unfortunately. BTW Its not length of time as a member that counts when posting links its number of posts IIRC.

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mogadon

Is the flat leasehold? In which case you will need permission from the freeholder as well, you will also probably have to get party wall agreements.

keystone

mogadon wrote: »

Is the flat leasehold?

All flate are leasehold.

In which case you will need permission from the freeholder as well...........

Good point.

Cheers

craigj

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keystone

craigj wrote: »

mogadon: Yes, I intend on purchasing freehold.

Are you sure?

keystone: Thanks for the reply. I have to admit that I was looking for a more precise estimate of costs, rather than anywhere between £2k and £30k (as I will be using the upgrade cost estimate to influence the price I can afford to offer to buy the property), but I can appreciate that it is very difficult with closely inspecting the building.

Actually its not difficult its totally IMPOSSIBLE without that structural report that says what you have to do. Sorry but one has to come before the other.

I managed to speak to someone experienced in renovating tenement flats in my area and apparently this is a common upgrade and I'd be looking at around £10,000 for the building work, and for the plumbing and electrical work on the new kitchen.

Thats your best yardstick I'm guessing but don't be surprised if that doesn't include structural alterations.

Cheers

craigj

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keystone

craigj wrote: »

Yes, I'm buying the flat to own permanently. Why do you ask?

Lol its not that I'm questioning its whether is freehold. Flats are normally leashold.

I fail to see how it is impossible to give a 'guestimate' to what the work will be by looking at a diagram

That is an extraordinarily naive thing to say if you don't mind me saying so. Your simple "sketch" is not a structural drawing by any stretch of the imagination. You said they are supporting walls. End of conversation the moment you said that. If they are non load bearing and just lath/plaster over stud thats a totally different ball of wax. You really do need to understand the difference. Are you changing the jobspec then?

Pretty much every tenement flat in Glasgow has the same layout and they're all built pretty much exactly the same.

Oh goody. How am I and 90+% of other people who post on here supposed to know that?

To get a guestimate, I simply need to speak to someone who has done this and ask how much it cost. Yeah, it's not going to be exactly accurate but I can work out whether the building work will cost me £30,000, £2000, or somewhere inbetween.

The person I spoke to had done similar work and mentioned estimated costs around the following:

Then why did you bother asking here and get riled when you didn't get the answer you were expecting because you havn't provided enough information to get you a proper answer.

Cheers

craigj

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keystone

craigj wrote: »

It seems you are confused.

Not at all.

My father and I have altered flats in the past by removing old stud walls and adding new ones.

As have many people.

This property however would require removal of supporting walls (a completely different 'kettle of fish') - which is why I am asking for guestimates of cost.

and thats the problem. You are asking for guesstimates of costs for removel of load bearing walls on the first floor of a three floor property based on inadequate information - just a sketch floorplan with no information about the construction of the building and to what degree these walls are load bearing. Noone in their right mind would give you anything but a very large cost window which is what I did soley based on the information you have provided here.

You say that is impossible? Strange, because a Glasgow builder has since given me that information.

LoL - funny guy. A local builder with local knowledge and better information than you have provided here has given you some data. I'm pleased for you.

You said it was impossible. I proved it wasn't.

Actualy you have proved me spot on correct. Never mind.

I was just replying to your posts out of courtesy, but I won't bother wasting any more time on you.

No you got arsey when I pointed out some truths about the way you went about it on this forum. Never mind - I will not waste any more of my time either..

You have a nice day now.

Cheers